GREAT GREAT podcast. As someone familiar with many layers of this, including the NDE, I got huge value from the entire talk. SUPER grateful this work and these services are being offered. THANK YOU !

Amazing high-level information. Thank you Thank you very much.

People like to mess up with their brain and search new experiences with drugs or practices but do not want to die to the self.

Very helpful. Thank you

So what was her answer? :)

...seems to me Tim is all about control - of his internals, of externals. It is understandable, based on his mentioning of trauma. But this focus on control and "hacking" oneself is probably a trauma response.

I love hearing how this all happened - here and with your friend Debbie -- and with your friend Jack who has to be the quintessential perfect person at your quinttessential moment. Everything changed after that. I love your open heart with both of them. There's SO MUCH in both of them. Thank you Tim.

WoW - thanks for sharing that powerful, vulnerable moment Tim. It resonates!

Thank you so much for sharing such intimate details, Tim. I really appreciate your candor.

Get over yourself bro

I never experienced much silence on mushrooms. The silent meditation seems to have been adverted by your enthusiasm for more depth of self reflection. Interestingly you started feeling better when you asked for help. And now, you have new resources to shine light on the shadows of your childhood experience. Your efforts to make the mediation retreat specifically fruitful was perhaps the first cry for help. Jack is a sweetheart, I'd love to paint a portrait of him as a token of your appreciation.

I've done a couple 10-day silent Vipassana meditation retreats and, unlike you, had sublime experiences both times. Yes, the physical aspect of sitting for 14 hours is initially uncomfortable. And yes, the monkey mind goes a little crazy the first couple of days. However, by day 3 or 4 I usually found myself in such a deep state of peace that I didn't want the retreat to ever end. Of course, I didn't fast because they said you need to eat to keep your strength up (sitting for that long is HARD work!). And I didn't do mushrooms because they requested us not to alter our reality with drugs or alcohol. I didn't even practice another form of meditation that I'd been doing for years because they asked us not to. Perhaps you'll give Vipassana another try someday, and you'll follow their guidelines, and your experience will be similar to mine. That's my wish for you. Because I was abused as a child, too. And sexually assaulted as a young woman. And Vipassana helped me clear away the fear surrounding those events...and so much more.

EMDR ... if you haven't checked it out please do. It is a powerful method/tool for dissolving trauma on deep levels.

Dude, this was already discussed like a year ago. It's already old news. When AGI hits, it's basically, game over.

Fascinating thank you!

Hmm....not sure about this episode. I mean I get that Tim had a very powerful, negative experience and others have found meditation to have a negative impact on their lives. What wasn't exactly clear is whether it's the treatment or the trauma that's causing the symptoms because it seems like you're blaming the treatment, meditation. BUT then again, I've found it difficult to keep meditating for some reason. I haven't really be able to articulate it but something seemed off. Then again, is the discomfort part of the healing process. It's so difficult to know and it seems to subtle. I found it interesting that they did a study on the negative impacts of meditation and I wish y'all would have discussed that more. I don't know, this seemed more of an episode for Tim, not for the rest of us.

should be retitled: my disastrous attempt to enhance a silence retreat with psychedelics

The hidden risks of drinking water. (Depends on the water)❤

Great contact, loved and learned so much on topics I’ve been struggling with lately. Is the onboarding checklist accessible?

Silence is golden. Mushrooms talk a lot…bad combination brother.

Yes! Thank you so much for addressing this! I "retraumatized myself" at a silent meditation retreat and discuss it whenever I can, because meditation is so often touted as a cure-all and at worst, benign. I'm curious about what Jack recommended? Or did I miss it

So you disregarded the explicit instructions for Vipassana meditation, took a bunch of psychedelics and fasted, and had a destabilizing experience? I'm sorry you had that experience.... and it's unfortunate that given the way you're portraying this in e.g. your video title that people are likely to conflate the "silent meditation retreat" with (respectfully) your own reckless disregard for the power of the tools you were dabbling in.

Eres valiente de contarlo, espero estes mejor.

The Vipassana retreats in SN Goenka tradition are pretty clear about no intoxicants (mushrooms) and no fasting. It’s already intense and spartan. I get endogenous DMT releases during those retreats without any “add-ons” and by following the rules. Full on Alex Grey visuals. 🤷‍♀️

It was interesting to hear about your experience and would’ve been great to hear the response. I didn’t know who you were talking to.

Goenka Vipassana focuses mainly on Object self. Maharsi Sayadaw is a little more of a sharper saw. But if you want to 'pop the bubble', the 'Two Part Formula' (Amrita Mandala) turns the gaze directly to Subject self...the 'I' or 'me' at the centre of it all. Object self is like the leaves, subject self is the tap root [of our self-deluded mind].

4x4 eh 🤔🧐

I want a lamp with the exact glow of your bald head.

Great convo! I really enjoyed listening to you two.

This is really interesting 😮

I have done several times, I am surprised that they let you go without eating or take mushrooms. Vippassana meditation is intense enough they do request you to keep everything else more stable and no writing, reading, exercising other than stretching, have to eat the meals and no drugs other than any prescribed medication. I have experienced going back to childhood trauma my first retreat, it was the most horrific experience, night shivers, same VR experience of being there, but sitting through it gave a whole lot of clarity and actually come out the other side with a better understanding of what happened and it not being something I am scared of which I have been since elementary school. Hopefully you can give it another shot.

Tim's got some Focals. 🎧

Much better than JP BS.

Nice

Thanx Tim

😂😂

Haven’t watched Tim in a long time. When did he start trying to be funny?

What your title should have read is hidden risks of meditation when you f=#@k it up with fasting and drugs. This is just click bait Tim shame on you.

Thank you Padre Tim