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Go back in time with Suzannah Lipscomb to the Victorian times, the Edwardian era and the 50s and see what hidden killers most affected women.
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HelRAEzzzer 3 yıl önce
Pro tip for anyone who wants to try wearing a corset: If the corset causes pain and/or trouble breathing, your corset is too small. Properly fitted corsets should be fairly comfortable to wear. Most women in the Victorian era wore padding with a propperly fitted corset to create the illusion of the extremely tiny waiste. Yes, there were idiots who would wear tight cinched corsets that caused organ damage (as one historian mentioned, it was the MINORITY of women who did this, and as far as I am aware those women were looked down on for doing it by most people). I genuinely would recommend that all women at least try on a proper sized corset made by someone who is well versed in making and wearing corsets (none of that cheap crap from sites like Amazon and ebay - those are HORRIBLE). Corsets are WAAAAAYYY more comfortable than bras. If custom sized (I have some what disproportionate measurements) corsets were affordable I would genuinely stop wearing bras and switch to corsets - a lot of women do still wear corsets regularly today. They make me feel powerful, attractive, and *corsets help alleviate my debilitating back pain* - they can be a good thing for a lot of people.
Queen_Of _Flatulence💨
Queen_Of _Flatulence💨 2 yıl önce
Alexis Goetz
Alexis Goetz 2 yıl önce
at least someone knows what they’re talking about!!!
Empress Carrot
Empress Carrot 2 yıl önce
Where do you buy yours?
JC Co 2 yıl önce
@I'm stupid But lol corsets tend to have a bad reputation because of outliers (dislocated organs due to tight-lacing) inflated to seem like the norm. I recommend you check out the videos of actual fashion historians/youtubers like Carolina Zebrowska (meme mom) and Bernadette Banner.
JC Co 2 yıl önce
@I'm stupid But "just youtubers"? They're actual historians who specialise in fashion, hence, they know what they're talking about. You seem to see people as 'less than' just because they also post things on youtube. btw Women DID wear pants, particularly working class women, although they did wear their own version of it. Also, crinoline skirts weren't too practical for the average working woman at that time so most didn't wear one everyday. And who says crinoline skirts were awful in the first place? ._.
Alison Albrecht
Alison Albrecht 2 yıl önce
The organs being distorted only happened during tight lacing. The “normal” wear was no different than wearing a strapless bra and a tight dress today.
gusmonster59 2 yıl önce
Or being pregnant. Good gods, EVERYTHING shifts when the baby gets big!
Cameron Warmerdam
Cameron Warmerdam 2 yıl önce
Corsets are WAY more comfortable though and they actually supported you (I have a large bust so corsets are way better for me, idk which is better for a smaller bust)
That one weirdo
That one weirdo 2 yıl önce
Thank you! I was wondering when someone would tell people this!
Bhadra.V.Hariraj 2 yıl önce
And, to fit with the sillouhette of the dress was achieved by making skirts bigger, or padding by the hips to make the waist look smaller.
Mister- Canada
Mister- Canada 2 yıl önce
Lol I'm wearing a corset right now!
Maia! 2 yıl önce
Most women did not tightlace their corsets and even when tightlacing became more common in the late 19th and early 20th century women didn’t do it everyday because it was inconvenient and they had work to do and a life to live and tightlaced corsets made it harder to do that. Corsets’ main function was more like bras and many historical examples of people talking about the health hazards of tightlaced corsets were by men who were against women’s suffrage and wanted to make women sound vain and stupid by saying that they were willing to break ribs or stop breathing in order to have a smaller waist. Although corsets did give the appearance of a more hourglass figure, they did not do so by harming women’s bodies.
I'llEatThat 2 yıl önce
Amen 😇
abigail • campbell
abigail • campbell 2 yıl önce
OMG THANK YOU!!! I’ve been waiting to see a comment like this👏🙏🏻😁
Icescream 2 yıl önce
DoritoCoolRanch 2 yıl önce
shifa 2 yıl önce
Kalina Phillips
Kalina Phillips 2 yıl önce
My great-grandmother was born in the 19th century and her youngest child (she had four) was born in 1915. When I asked her if she wore a corset during her pregnancies she exclaimed indignantly "Of cause! I just loosen it up a bit!".
yucky yucky
yucky yucky 3 yıl önce
For a more historically accurate representation of the effects and use of corsets Karolina Zebrowksa here on TRshow has a lot of videos talking about the many misrepresentations of corsets and corset wearers specifically her video ‘ how Victorian men taught us to hate corsets’
Katrina Wagner
Katrina Wagner 2 yıl önce
Also Bernadette Banner, who is a dress historian and has some amazing videos on the true history of corsets.
Sedona 2 yıl önce
I was looking for this comment exactly
DannyJane 2 yıl önce
Thank you for the rational commentary on corsets. The misrepresentation here is awful, promulgating every long-busted myth about them. I'm a history re-enactor and I have worn corsets for as long as 18 hours in a day. When a corset fits correctly it's a remarkably comfortable garment. Nobody could get through the day if corsets had actually been worn as they are presented here. I have terrible issues with my spine. I found my custom-made corset to be a superb back support when I had to be on my feet for many hours, and that it assisted me in correct posture when sitting. Further, corsets were NOT worn to bed. A lady took it off, put on her night dress, and slept just as we do now. Nobody believed the drawings in advertisements any more than we believe the photoshopped images of models now.
Elfenlied 2 yıl önce
Both Bernadette and Karolina are absolute faves of mine!
Priscilla Morris
Priscilla Morris 2 yıl önce
Thank you. I tried to watch this, but had to stop as I couldn't hear what they said anymore because of my shouting. :P Made it halfway. Even museums show all the myths about corsets.
Daria Morgendorfer Brown
Daria Morgendorfer Brown 2 yıl önce
How disappointing, corsets aren’t killing machines just get one that fits you properly and don’t tight lace and your fine. And most women in the Victorian era looked down upon tight lacing. Corsets are just like bras today they’ll help with your back support and are needed for specific clothing. Edit: I wrote this as it makes it look like corsets are bad and the media also makes corsets look bad I’m just trying to inform people. In the video they didn’t make corsets look good, I’m not saying I’m a doctor or anything I’m just trying to inform since They got the women a corset and try it. They didn’t even put it on properly, and she got out of breath. There is more misinformation in the video and it just made corsets look bad. (Sorry for writing mistakes and if I worded some things wrong, I wrote this in a hurry)
_alex 2 yıl önce
MariaDreamed 这很酷 :3 they should know when to stop. Their body would start hurting or give some kind of emotion. Plus, the indents on the liver looked kind of fake. They were pushed in so much. So yeah it is their fault for lacing it too tightly. Their body gives them a signal, yet they deny It.
Neon_pixell 2 yıl önce
@_alex back then I don’t think they had the option to get ones that fit their body type because it was a time period where women had to fit this ideal person ,and if they didn’t fit it naturally they would force it therefore leading to issues with organs. Not to mention the corsets made in this day and age are made with safe materials that don’t cause pain because it’s the corset that has to fit the woman, not the woman to fit the corset like back then.
Neon_pixell 2 yıl önce
@_alex even now we still obsess over how we look in dangerous ways such as tanning beds and surgery such as BBL which can be dangerous as the fat which is moved has a risk of entering our arteries therefore making some people to die at the end of the surgery. Yes we know it’s stupid but Back then it was either fit that category or be an outcast. Not to mention they didn’t have the information we do today and to them having corsets made out of whalebone and steel was perfectly normal
_alex 2 yıl önce
@Neon_pixell it was still their choice to fit in or be a so called ‘outcast’
SC 2 yıl önce
It’s so nice to see everyone calling bullshit on their statements about corsets.
RandomVielleuse 2 yıl önce
Louisa Capell
Louisa Capell 2 yıl önce
For real!
GudetamaSit 2 yıl önce
I don't think it was as inaccurate as everyone's said. The purpose of a corset was / is to support. They stated that specifically tight lacing was the harmful aspect ( and that only a minority did it ) which I'd assume to be accurate. Then again I'm no expert - can anyone clarify ? Pretty interesting subject.
SC 2 yıl önce
Eve O'Grady Mashups although they do state that tight lacing was the more harmful yet less used way to wear a corset the way this video presents it gives the impression that it was something much more commonly worn for long periods of time. The demonstration they give is especially misleading as they tight lace her into an unseasoned corset without having any previous corset experience. It’s like saying that doing the splits is the direct cause of pulling your hamstring, and then having the demonstration be forcing someone who has never done a split in their life do a full one on their first try.
GudetamaSit 2 yıl önce
@SC I get why everyone is so annoyed over it now haha! How it was framed and the physical re enacting does seem misleading now even if the information itself wasn't actually incorrect. Maybe it's due to the different perspectives / knowledge of the historian compared to the 'corset collector' , I can only speculate. Actual corset wearers seem to know a lot more than that woman at least !
Adelaide Beeman-White
Adelaide Beeman-White 2 yıl önce
I wear a corset, bustle pad, five floor length petticoats, a floor length skirt, and a historical bodice or shirtwaist every waking moment of every day. I dress in historically accurate 1890s clothing on a daily basis. I do this because I find this clothing, including my corset, to be significantly more comfortable than modern clothing. I am also quite healthy, and am able to be quite active in my corset. I have climbed mountains in 1890s clothing, and been perfectly fine. I have some videos about this on my channel if you are interested.
good▪︎girl 2 yıl önce
Oh! I adore you! At least you're doing it in a healthy way!
Lawrence Scales
Lawrence Scales 2 yıl önce
Thank u I studied textiles and these corset myths bug me to no end. It takes all agency from historical women and acts like femininity made them weak, and only be dressing in a more ‘relaxed’ way as men did did they suddenly become ‘free’ (to the modern viewer at least, who may not know men’s clothing could also include shape wear...) I feel like it ignores so much complexity, cultural overlap in men’s and women’s clothing and other pressing social issues or practical issues that maybe lead women to dress a certain way, and people to encourage or discourage that mode of dress. It’s just reductionist, and relegates women’s issues down to a clothing symbol inside of something like lack of legal rights.
Adelaide Beeman-White
Adelaide Beeman-White 2 yıl önce
Lawrence Scales - Preach!
gusmonster59 2 yıl önce
Yuppers. I have done full on 1870's with the huge rounded bustles and all the proper underpinnings. I can do almost anything in those gowns - except sit against the back of a chair **L**. These types of highly incorrect videos make me so angry because they do not teach, they perpetuate rumor.
Happy Sleepy
Happy Sleepy 2 yıl önce
How fascinating! Just subscribed!
Faerie 2 yıl önce
I gotta admit that the corset part was inaccurate. If y'all want to know more about corsets I suggest watching Bernadette Banner's video on the subject. She sorta grew up in a more modern form of a corset to treat her scoliosis. Also, there are other videos on corsets from actual fashion historians/ historical costumers that know more on the subject. I know there's also a video of a lady who wore a corset for a week, but I forgot her name.
dumb gopher
dumb gopher 2 yıl önce
It was Morgan Donner
Ginger 25112003
Ginger 25112003 2 yıl önce
And there is also Karolina Żebrowska who did a video on corsets.
Kylee Palmer
Kylee Palmer 2 yıl önce
The scoliosis corset is not a corset its a brace which does nothing like a corset
Ginger 25112003
Ginger 25112003 2 yıl önce
@Kylee Palmer I believe it depends on who you are. I know there was someone who got an actual corset to help with their scoliosis. I just forgot who it was.
Rebecca Amber Whitemoon
Rebecca Amber Whitemoon 2 yıl önce
@Kylee Palmer her (Bernadette banner's) waist had to be reduced inorder for her scoliosis to not get as severe. Her video on corset myths is super informative
smoku goku
smoku goku 2 yıl önce
Literally everyone who has watched one (1) video about the history of corseting knows most if not all corsets were fairly normal and comfortable to wear, if it felt tight or restricting that was because they weren't tailored correctly. Bug it's not something like feet-binding that actually had to deal with the oppression of women, even men wore corsets and they were very common. That tight, stiff, unbreathable corset you see in movies is just Hollywood being Hollywood :/ Unfortunately actors and actresses like to also dramaticize the idea of corset wearing as well (cough cough beauty and the beast remake cough) which is just dissapointing. To spread misinformation about such a commonly worn thing for no reason is upsetting but yeet savage dab lit
fulltimemonti 3 yıl önce
The redheaded commentator is an amazing narrator.
BehindTheMoons 3 yıl önce
She's amazing ! 💙
Dairus Reynnet
Dairus Reynnet 3 yıl önce
Gwen Thomas
Gwen Thomas 3 yıl önce
She's really pretty.
Clarissa Marsfiels
Clarissa Marsfiels 3 yıl önce
I love her voice! I could listen to her 24/7. Really lovely lady
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L̆̈ĭ̈s̆̈ă̈ S̆̈m̆̈ĭ̈l̆̈ĕ̈s̆̈ 3 yıl önce
I strongly agree.
gone 2 yıl önce
thumbnail: 'Killer Corsets' Fashion Historians and people with basic common sense of fashion history: *Are we a joke to you?*
Ohh its Oral
Ohh its Oral 2 yıl önce
Hi are you army saw you pic of jimin i think
gone 2 yıl önce
@Ohh its Oral No I'm not. I can't handle ARMY's :,)
Ohh its Oral
Ohh its Oral 2 yıl önce
Thats okay anyways hi😊
gone 2 yıl önce
@Ohh its Oral Yeah. Hi :D
Abha Chatterjee
Abha Chatterjee 2 yıl önce
Exactly, it makes sense that people who have only heard about corsets through pop culture (where they are grossly misrepresented ) might think they were oppressive 'silent killers' but it is rather surprising that Dr Suzannah Lipscomb, who has done a substantial amount of historical research would think the same, even though they have been a staple piece in both men and women's wardrobes for several centuries.
fatmanfatima 123
fatmanfatima 123 2 yıl önce
Victorians women: we have the smallest waist Barbie: nope I have the smallest waist
sam 5.1
sam 5.1 2 yıl önce
Victorian women just used padding to create the ilusion of a small waist. They had things to do, they coud'nt just tight lace their corsets 🤦‍♂️.
jrseahorse 2 yıl önce
Ikr everytime I see a Barbie doll (usually not Barbie herself) having actual realistic proportions I’m like wow her waist is not small when it’s an actual proportion 😂 that’s so bad.
The banana Owen slipped on
The banana Owen slipped on 2 yıl önce
**barbie doll with a corset**- may I introduce myself?
2 yıl önce
@jrseahorse ikr! I had a doll.. She isn't "thin" her arms has muscles and her waist is so perfect!
Amy S
Amy S 2 yıl önce
Winx: allow us to introduce ourselves
Meredithe Ester
Meredithe Ester 3 yıl önce
But let's take time to appreciate her blonde curly hair
tom cline
tom cline 3 yıl önce
Oh yes! Always!
*Georgia* 2 yıl önce
I have blonde curly hair too ! It’s possibly more curly than hers 😉😂
tom cline
tom cline 2 yıl önce
@*Georgia* Groovy! You tall and long legged like her? Petite and sweet? Slightly fluffy,and cute as a button? Good for you! I have long kinda wavy hair and a big kinda ginger and silver beard. Take care of your hair!! It can go at any time!!!!! I'm bald except for three inch wide fringe that is down past my shoulders! Kinda trying to make up for the shiny top. I was just teasing by the way, I was always jealous of my brothers. They had wavy almost curly hair and mine was board straight. When it started falling out,it started to get wavy. To little to late,I always thought. Be safe and stay healthy and let your curls flow!!!!!
*Georgia* 2 yıl önce
tom cline in a way yes but I’m probably not as tall 😂 thank you very much though and I do my very best to care for mine! It’s sad what happened to yours but I bet you still look amazing 😁 thank you again and I will, You stay safe too!!
tom cline
tom cline 2 yıl önce
@*Georgia* Sweet! I left amazing in the rear view a long time ago! It never bothered me loosing my hair. For a while I shaved my head,it was easier when I was a firefighter,but about 11 years ago I said the heck with it! Quit shaving,and cutting my hair. Now I look like a giant lumberjack. I'm 6 foot 7inches tall and about 300 lbs,so the pony tail,giant beard look fits. Have a great day/evening( depending on your time zone)!
Moon Kitty
Moon Kitty 3 yıl önce
Corsets were very rarely killers; of course, when it came to tight lacing, it was very dangerous to the woman's health, however, this practice was very rare and only found really among the higher classes who didn't have to work. Most corsets were and are designed to be quite comfortable because it was more practical for when a woman was working or taking part in a lot of activities. Corsets helped to support the chest and hips under the mass of clothes and before bras were invented and also helped with posture- they were slightly cinched in at the waste, beauty standards at the time, but not nearly as drastic as you see in films and televisions (and probably this documentary- lower classed woman would have got nothing done in the corset she was wearing). Corsets killing women, while slightly true with tight lacing, is a complete myth.
Robert Elliot
Robert Elliot 2 yıl önce
The girl hosting this is so cool how they used her to demonstrate all these things. Pretty ingenious and artsy. I watched the whole show
Martin Bond
Martin Bond 2 yıl önce
One of the things about corsets that is often overlooked is that they were only part of the costume that shaped how a woman looked. The corset gave a flat stomach and supported and shaped the bust. Under the skirt women almost always fitted a bum roll, assuming bustles weren't in fashion, to provide a well shaped bottom while the long skirts hid the legs. Today women wear tight fitting clothes, often elasticated, that expose every contour of the body and wonder why men can't look at their face, and wonder why so many women have body anxiety.
Alice Kara
Alice Kara 2 yıl önce
One thing that they forgot to mention was that tight lacing was VERY, VERY RARE. There aren’t many cases of it, ever. While dying from corsetry is possible, it’s very rare. The only reasons it was so talked about was 1. Because it surprised most people, seeing as they knew about the repercusiones, and 2. When women started fitting for the right to vote, some men resorted to shaming them for wearing corsets (it was a woman owned industry) to belittle them.
Avourrito 2 yıl önce
The corset collector actually said it. She said "Tight-lacing was a minority of people did back then" but of course they emphasize it being a majority instead
Cassidy Starke
Cassidy Starke 2 yıl önce
@Avourrito No they empathize it because that was the point of the video. The show why some women did it and what the effects on the body were.
Kayla Tolliver
Kayla Tolliver 3 yıl önce
Now: Oh my gosh! why would they do that to themselves?! Also now: I'm too pale! Let me slip into this cancerous light coffin to tan my skin.
Julia 3 yıl önce
a lot of make up products and even skin care products are dangerous too, perfume also. there are many things we don't know and don't care to know even.
Atriya Koller
Atriya Koller 3 yıl önce
I never use those. I have been insulted and bullied for being pale/light-skinned, but I'm proud of it (not in a racist way - other people's skin colour doesn't matter). "Tan as much as you want, just leave me", I said.
MegRo 3 yıl önce
Kayla Tolliver do people still do that? It’s illegal here in Australia! Although I’ve heard plenty of people have ones at home still ( illegally) I’ve no idea why people would intentionally do that knowing what we know!! Like anything I guess smoking etc..
MegRo 3 yıl önce
Atriya Koller 2nd that ALL skin colour is beautiful and I love my pale skin now too! Thanks to twilight I just tell myself I must be a vampire 🧛‍♀️ lol 😂
Atriya Koller
Atriya Koller 3 yıl önce
@MegRo haha, I had that time too after Twilight, and in fact when I go to the beach I joke that people could get blind because of my legs - they are legit white and reflective 😂 Also, to your answer to the original comment: I live in Russia and in most of our country it's super fashionable and you get looked down on if you don't tan (I don't even sunbathe on the beach, it's too boring). And these rooms with tanning beds are still in most beauty salons, although, thankfully, they aren't as heavily advertised as 10 years ago.
*you are now blocked*
*you are now blocked* 3 yıl önce
Corsets rlly weren’t that bad, they were needed for support, barley anyone tight laced them at all and they were used like a bra. Also, most corsets were tailor-made, so trying on just any corset is of course going to be uncomfortable because it wasn’t made for you.
*you are now blocked*
*you are now blocked* 2 yıl önce
Crisader Rose was it tailor made for u, and was it made of good quality fabric and materials?
Hannah M
Hannah M 2 yıl önce
I am planning on making my own some day. I can't wait to try it! I HATE bras and am hopeing a corset is better.😅
*you are now blocked*
*you are now blocked* 2 yıl önce
Hannah M I want one tooooo but I have no talent w a sewing machine lol
Hannah M
Hannah M 2 yıl önce
You can always learn! 😁
*you are now blocked*
*you are now blocked* 2 yıl önce
Hannah M I had textile lessons and sewed my finger lmfao I have no hope but honestly imma just save money till I can afford to have one made :)
Dori Weishaar
Dori Weishaar 3 yıl önce
Just love this series, l always learn so much whether about deadly pantry and home items to foods , beauty and social trends of the Edwardian & Victorian era's . An absolutely non boring history class !!! Bravo👍🤗👍
Steven Mccart
Steven Mccart Yıl önce
Many years ago (unfortunately before antiques road show) my family moved into a large Victorian house that had a garage ,attic and basement. All full of antiques (All KINDS) One day while searching through some boxes I not only came across an infinite amount of Halloween costumes but ,a large collection of hat pins. The majority of the pins were topped by a simple faux pearl. Leave it to a couple of mischievous boys like us we discovered we could make the most awesome blow guns using those pins ,a wad of cotton for a snug fit and a curtain rod. Not only were they accurate but ,they fired a very long distance. Most of all I can attest to the anecdote regarding the suffragettes and the amount of harm some of those hat pins could cause.
xxxmindblockxxx 3 yıl önce
Tight lacing wasn't common 🤦🏻‍♀️ most women wore comfortaby laced corsets. My natural waist is 24 in, I wouldn't be tightening it any further for example. Only 'celebrities' did it so extremely.
tom cline
tom cline 3 yıl önce
I have 26 inch thighs! EACH! My oldest little sister is built like you. She used to put my jeans on standing in one leg! Of course I'm 6'7" tall and at the time my sister discovered her smart ass Gene I only weighed 230 pounds.
Fucc Boi
Fucc Boi 2 yıl önce
And that's why the expert in the video specifically said that a minority of women tightlaced.
Belle R.
Belle R. 2 yıl önce
@tom cline Your point?
tom cline
tom cline 2 yıl önce
@Belle R. No point,it was just a comment on xxxmindblockxxx's comment. I just thought it was funny,and reminded me of my tiny sister. That ok with you?
Belle R.
Belle R. 2 yıl önce
@tom cline Oh, I see! Sorry, English isn't my first language and it sounded to me like you were calling her too skinny. I'm a bit sensitive in that area, since I've been called anorexic ect. before. Sorry for assuming the worst!
Henry Yıl önce
My grandmother and great aunt told me about the world of course it's when I was very young. Fortunately I was mature enough that the information passed on to me had no ill effects. My grandmother had a 16 inch waist when she was corset in and that was when she was 18 to the age of 20. My great aunt worked with a type of corset she was 12 years old when she started work at a book bindery. When she came of age at 15 course had had to go on and she still had to carry stacks of books of several flights of stairs. She hated the darn thing much as most women seem to do and they did so quietly. Her waist when she was corseted was between 16 to 17 in. She informed that of course it was worn even when a woman was bloating from her menstrual cycle. I later find out found out what a menstrual cycle was and I figured it was no big deal. She became a seamstress and an extremely well paid one at that she managed an entire floor of women still in her late teens. She did tell me of one thing that no one could condemn her for she would sneakily take out the Bone stays that were used to give corset it's ridiculity and strength to hold the body in the desired shape. Doing way with the stays helped her breathing and her general well-being. My maternal grandmother, was heaven helper an actress along with her twin sister. This made them popular in stage plays that required quick changes or the appearance of twins in the plot. I was informed that they did not wear corsets and allowed their waste to be nearly 25. Both women believed in the beneficial effects of exercise and used throughout their lives gym equipment that they could have in the home. Through diet and exercise they were able to maintain their waste at the accepted diameter. Through the writings of the women in our family who lived out west courses and stays were generally thrown away for they had to do a lot more work than the certified or urbanized ladies from the East coast. The necessary work to run a farm was far too extreme and those who insisted on corsets found at their cost that they were unable to do any of the necessary jobs for women on the farm in that day and age.
Just a Stranger
Just a Stranger 3 yıl önce
"she covered her face in poison" - we haven't gone too far from them ...
Kendra Harris
Kendra Harris 2 yıl önce
Most makeup made now is vegan 🌱
GuacaMolly 2 yıl önce
@Kendra Harris vegan means that it contains no animal products. That doesn't make it safe. For example, the more problematic ingredients would be lead and tarc, or other harmful chemicals, which would be used in vegan products anyways. Using vegan products isn't any more healthy for us; it's just better for animals.
The Sleepy Archive
The Sleepy Archive 2 yıl önce
Kendra Harris What does that have to do with anything? Vegan doesn’t mean it doesn’t have cancerous ingredients in it.
Victoria Lovelace
Victoria Lovelace 2 yıl önce
To be fair we don't get lead poising or cancers from the daily make up products so it's safe to say that we have gone far.
LiamPham 2 yıl önce
Kendra Harris mercury and lead is vegan
Dakota H
Dakota H 2 yıl önce
“Spending hours in the morning getting into a corset...” I wonder what kind of corset these people were wearing. I just timed myself getting into my corset and lacing it up (just a basic split busk corset that has back lacing) and it took me 1 minute 30 seconds.
LittleImpaler 2 yıl önce
If you're not use to it. It takes longer. This is like saying someone who wrapped a sari in 1 minutes vs to someone who isn't use to it.
Dakota H
Dakota H 2 yıl önce
LittleImpaler True, but my point is that Victorians were used to putting on corsets as they were their bras essentially. They were certainly more used to putting on a corset than I am as I only really wear one every once in awhile. This video is idiotic and I was only pointing out a single idiotic thing they said.
LittleImpaler 2 yıl önce
@Dakota H It's not stupid. They kept saying a tight corset. That's the problem a tight corset.
Dakota H
Dakota H 2 yıl önce
LittleImpaler perhaps idiotic is not precisely what I meant. I meant that the information is presented in such a way as to seem idiotic to me. Their approach to proving how awful corsets are was incredibly unconvincing (that woman was suffering from anxiety at the mere mention of wearing a corset and it seemed like she was freaking herself out about it). The experiment would have been more informational if they took someone who was accustomed to wearing a corset occasionally and didn’t seem anxious about it. The whole video seems rather melodramatic when I would have preferred it to be simply factual. No need for doomsday music as enough people survived the Victorian era to keep the world very well populated. All the problematic products mentioned laid the foundation for laws being passed that tried to protect people from substances or things that were harmful to their health. It still happens today. How often do you see class action lawsuits against companies regarding their product? Things are recalled all the time (prescription drugs, baby equipment, specific parts of cars, food, etc.). It’s really not uncommon at all. I thought it was funny how they talked of all these “killers” when I don’t really feel like we’ve come very far as a society. Do we really imagine that we don’t still have similar issues with things today? Do we imagine we’ve discovered the ultimate in health, wellness, beauty, and safety? Is it really better that we drill for fossil fuel to make plastic and turn that into cloth and wear that around rather than fur? Are women today really not damaging their health and bodies by wearing heels and bras and putting who-knows-what on their skin? Not to mention the food issues we have. Do we really imagine that eating Cheetos and drinking soda is okay because the chemicals in them have been approved? (Before anyone makes the argument that they don’t consume such garbage I will also make the argument that not all women wore poisonous cosmetics or used poisonous things in the Victorian era.) As the video currently stands it just feels like more of a “Wow, people were so terrible and dumb back then. Aren’t we glad we’re so advanced now!” which doesn’t ring true to me as there are plenty of practices that I view as abhorrent that society deems to be perfectly acceptable. I very much suspect that future generations will look back at us and be astonished at our ignorance and stupidity.
Enolp 2 yıl önce
@Dakota H exactly my thoughts
Jovana Levesque
Jovana Levesque 3 yıl önce
the hat pin thing must have made them feel safe tho. Imagine getting stab by a pretty and stylish victorian/edwardian lady
blanca 2 yıl önce
Thats quite gay 🥺 I like it ✨
Austin Lucas
Austin Lucas 2 yıl önce
The second Wizard of Oz book (1902) has an army of 400 girls using knitting needles as weapons, against Emerald City, to take it over. There _was_ a man at the gate with a gun, but he foolishly admitted to the whole army that it either wasn't loaded or he didn't know if it would work. And thus, they raided the whole city, and the Scarecrow (who was king) had to leave.
o o
o o 2 yıl önce
[you pickpocket from a stylish and obviously rich lady] [a pin stabs into your brain and kills you almost instantly] [as you fade away she picks the pin up from out your skull and smoothly puts in back in her hat]
Milenart Meire
Milenart Meire 2 yıl önce
Yeah, I found that pretty badass
Chi Chi
Chi Chi 2 yıl önce
I'm gay 😳💗
Marjorie Allworth
Marjorie Allworth 2 yıl önce
This is so very well presented and the information seems accurate. Thank you.
J. Münstermann
J. Münstermann 2 yıl önce
As you said. They were pre-bra . Mostly it was there for the same purpose as bras. Paintings are mostly edited, so that the people on the picture would look thinner. Being so tightly laced was extremely rare. I own a few corsets, because, if just laced as far as sensible, they're extremely supporting and comfortable. You have to breathe a little higher, so if you wear it for the first time and breathe more deeply - sure, you're going to be more exhausted more quickly. Yeah, there were harmful corsets in history but they were just as rare as modern high fashion wich isn't much better in sports etc. But you completely misrepresented quite a bit of it.
Goose Girly
Goose Girly 2 yıl önce
Guys corsets weren’t deadly nearly every single woman of every class wore them so of course a few women went too far
mintiistrqwberri 2 yıl önce
Wearing the wrong size and made it tight is dangerous Corsets aren't that bad
Mileva Dodik
Mileva Dodik 2 yıl önce
@mintiistrqwberri yes yust if it is too smal
KarmaKaughtTheKat 2 yıl önce
Yes, the corset itself isn't deadly, it's how small or tight you decide to make it, tight lacing is completely different from corseting honestly
gone 2 yıl önce
@KarmaKaughtTheKat plus if the corset was "breaked in" / "seasoned" properly. It matters exactly that it fits just right. :)
sarah 2 yıl önce
Guys have corsets?
PaHrIc StHaRr
PaHrIc StHaRr 2 yıl önce
I’m as pale as a ghost, legally considered blind, my hairs a unruly mess, the Edwardian men would be falling over themselves
cherrysoda97 2 yıl önce
Don't forget that corset though
Chérry 2 yıl önce
Dude same🤣 and the fact that I have a tiny waist. Shit I guess I was born in the wrong time
9estelle 2 yıl önce
I wonder if my ancestors gave birth to a malshaped baby because they felt the pressure to look skinny and curvy
Morgan 2 yıl önce
Me too! (Though I’m not full blind I’m near sighted) I laugh about it all the time 😂
Scarlet Witch
Scarlet Witch 2 yıl önce
I don't understand why Americans want Tan/Morena skin. Give me yours in exchange of mine now!
Aura Benton
Aura Benton 2 yıl önce
You would never lace down 4 inches your first time! You season your corset which basically molds your corset to your body on top of it being a custom made corset. A brand new corset has to be seasoned 3-4 hours over a period of weeks to be able to wear it for longer periods. It’s like breaking in your shoes. Even then, you don’t tight lace in the Victorian era. I am able to workout in my corset and it helps retain a straight posture so I don’t throw my back out.
ElysetheEevee 3 yıl önce
"...and flesh flying everywhere..." I think the quote this is apart of is probably one of my favorite things said by any historian. The amount of facetiousness is amazing! I love it.
Confusion Central
Confusion Central 2 yıl önce
I honestly find it hilarious that these fashion historians are talking about how "CorSEts ARe dEaDLy!" while just ordinary people like my self, with only a small interest and limited knowledge on historical fashion, are just like "But they're not though, are they."
Julia Sleeman
Julia Sleeman 2 yıl önce
I think it’s becuase at this time thye took it too far and laced the corsets up too tight
Rosie 2 yıl önce
Did you watch the video? They wore these 24/7 and weren’t a size 0.
Tom Matsuda
Tom Matsuda 2 yıl önce
Are u a blink?
A_random Person
A_random Person 2 yıl önce
So some women wearing corsets that crushed their organs weren't deadly? Omg I never knew
Confusion Central
Confusion Central 2 yıl önce
@A_random Person What I meant in my comment is that women didn't tight lace their corsets (but some probably did of course). Sorry if I didn't explain my point very well.
Hufflepufflez :3
Hufflepufflez :3 2 yıl önce
Personally, I love corseting. I'm fifteen, I don't tight lace, and I do it for myself. It's comforting, improves my self esteem, and is overall just a good decision for me. I like how they mention that it's a minority of people who go super crazy with corsets, you don't normally see that in media.
Ellen Taulbut
Ellen Taulbut 2 yıl önce
Another problem with this video is that they have renamed it so it includes "in the bridgerton era". No. Just no. Bridgerton is set in 1813, they were not wearing hour glass corsets. They would be wearing transitional stays/corsets that had no need to be tightlaced because the silhouete of the time (the empire waist) came just under the breasts far from the natural waist.
Aubrey Talley
Aubrey Talley 2 yıl önce
Literally that made me so mad
David Son
David Son 3 yıl önce
Lives in a world full of arsenic, boric acid and asbestos. *DIES BY EATING RAW RICE*
Creeket 2 yıl önce
Brielle Edwards
Brielle Edwards 2 yıl önce
Have you tried putting her in rice
Sister Superior Addie
Sister Superior Addie 2 yıl önce
What's going on? tea that’s why we have stomach acid lmao
valentine 2 yıl önce
**4-year-old me who swallowed a grain of rice by accident 👁️👄👁️**
Glitched- Eyes
Glitched- Eyes 3 yıl önce
One think I've learnt about corsets is that people of the era would have worn them since childhood, and so would have been more used to the feeling. Not only that but if the corset is causing you shortness of breath and discomfort, it probably means it's not fitted properly or is laced too tight. We all know that people back then didn't understand the dangers of things like we do today but I'm sure if they were uncomfortable they would have loosened their corset, which they could do by hand throughout the day if they were feeling so.
Glitched- Eyes
Glitched- Eyes 3 yıl önce
Also from what I've learnt the common belief of fainting and squished organs are largely greatly over exaggerated.
A.m. H.A.
A.m. H.A. 2 yıl önce
I like how they never mentioned padding. Lots of women padded both underneath and above their corset. Once you start padding out your bust and hips your waist automatically looks smaller and if you're already have a 24 inch even better. Also editing pictures are nothing new. Many Victorian and Edwardian models posed in front of white or black backgrounds which made it easier to paint over the waist once the photo was developed
Mac 2 yıl önce
Corsets are actually not killers. You have to have on made for you, measured, fitted, laced up correctly. If you just throw one on and it is measured for you and you lace it wrong it can really miss up you insides. There's this TRshowr who actually use(d) a corset, fitted and everything, to help her back out. If I find her video I'll link it in the reply section.
God1127 2 yıl önce
I love your videos, it’s very creative and I enjoy every second of it, definitely worth it!! ❤️ 🔥
Ardith Yıl önce
The electric cords in the 1930's and 1920's we're covered in cloth which got frayed and the copper wires were exposed. I saw these still for sale in thrift shops in the 1980's. House wiring was also scary.
Iridescent Aurora
Iridescent Aurora 3 yıl önce
Re: corsets. Your average lady of the era only laced their corset tight enough to fit and be secure. Most women did not tight-lace. I heard from another source that tight lacing was actually seen as shallow and frivolous in those days (kinda like How stuffing your bra is seen today, at least in the Midwest)
gelililili 3 yıl önce
The historian specifically said it was a minority of women who tightlaced :) (Though they definitely could have emphasized that point more!) How interesting about the southern California padded bras are still very much a thing & "stuffing" would never ever be practiced by an adult woman.
Iridescent Aurora
Iridescent Aurora 3 yıl önce
Angelina Rose Oh yeah, that’s what I meant. Padded bras are still common, but the act of stuffing is not (most of us around here leave that behind when they get into high school, if they even partook in the first place)
Emmie Ana Ray
Emmie Ana Ray 3 yıl önce
Yes but it’s like waist trainers now. Most of us don’t wear them, but it’s still a big thing.
LacrimaPhoenix 3 yıl önce
Plus what does it change about the breathtaking side effects shown by the moderator. She clearly was not tight laced and still couldn't function. It's not representative, but I reckon most women would react similarly to a (not tight laced) corset.
Kimberley Smith
Kimberley Smith 3 yıl önce
I guess most of this video is relating to British women which is maybe where there is a difference. I know Victorian women in the UK were laced tightly and they would Often faint.
Shadow_ Knight_22
Shadow_ Knight_22 3 yıl önce
I have a friend who needed a plastic corset for 5 years because of scoliosis and shes fine. Not to mention if you really look at a Victorian corset they already had the hour gals shape and you padded the bust and hips for more shape and to help with the illusion of a tiny waist. edit: if this sounds hateful/mean, I'm sorry, I didn't mean it to sound that way
Luante 2 yıl önce
The Victorians had like corsets made out of bones and they would have had to tie it really tight the corsets nower days I think corsets are a little bit more safe they were used to help but it still wasn't safe the corset your friend had probably is ten right size but the corsets the Victorians wore might of been small
Shadow_ Knight_22
Shadow_ Knight_22 2 yıl önce
Tight lacing was just as shocking as it is now if u look at any Victorian corset the shape is built in to the corset so you just had to pad the bust and hips for extra shape
M Daggatt
M Daggatt 2 yıl önce
my favorite part is where they have the corset expert show them the corsets but don't actually let her talk about corsets and instead have historians who have never researched corsets before now lie about what they were like :/
MithraMusic 2 yıl önce
"Twenty-four inches!" "Twenty-four and three quarters." Dang, lady is brutal
Justin isme
Justin isme 2 yıl önce
Had to scroll through a bunch of corset arguing to find this. Glad someone else noticed it
Cora Faith
Cora Faith 2 yıl önce
Those "small wastes" wasn't because of people lacing there corsets too tight it was because they knew how to balance out the volume of the other garments. They would accentuate the shoulders and hip areas to give the illusion of a smaller waste. Also corsets were basically used as a bra and it would support the breast.
Vincy The Cat
Vincy The Cat 2 yıl önce
Corsets are not fatal at all. Instead they were meant to support the back and bust of the individual wearing it, and maybe even giving them a better silhouette. Tight lacing was actually a bit more common in later centuries. However it was looked down upon as others mentioned before. So far, I haven’t heard of any death cases regarding corsets.
Avenged Peanut
Avenged Peanut 3 yıl önce
These illustrations of women wearing corsets looked like a photoshop job gone wrong.
Tsuzuki Brynjarson
Tsuzuki Brynjarson 3 yıl önce
I have a bustier(kinda like a corset) but when I wore it, I never done it too tight.
Sarah Mae
Sarah Mae 3 yıl önce
Actually they would paint these photos to make their waist even smaller.
Glen Graham
Glen Graham 3 yıl önce
I was just thinking that's exactly what they were and how depressing that we're still doing exactly the same thing today with photoshop as they were doing well over 100 years ago with illustration.
_Paws_ 3 yıl önce
2manynegativewaves the video did point out that they were just illustrations and not to function as they were depicted. Yet as the historian mentioned also, the movement led to even more extreme measures beyond the illustration.
_Paws_ 3 yıl önce
I used to work on a publication that reprinted historical catalogs. The content shown here are accurate, it was amazing what items we have now had an antique equivalent.
creepydude94 3 yıl önce
the specialists are like "tight-lacing was actually really rare tho" yet this entire time the show is going AND THUS CORSETS WERE DANGEROUS!! Some people wear gogo heels and may have broken ankles because of it, doesn't mean you need to dedicate an entire segment to the risk caused by mordern shoes.
ZeLeninovo mäsové rizoto
ZeLeninovo mäsové rizoto 2 yıl önce
@savannah but boys wore corsets or rather stays but that's beside the point
SM 2 yıl önce
@savannah so? they're not wrong, and besides men wore corsets too
Cassidy Starke
Cassidy Starke 2 yıl önce
The video was ONLY about the women that did it to the extreme. They’re not saying every corset every is gonna kill you.
Bella Donna 안윤아
Bella Donna 안윤아 2 yıl önce
Wouldn’t it be neat to gather the info we have today and go back in time with it! It’d be a huge game changer for the past and future
WWZenaDo 2 yıl önce
I've made and worn Elizabethan corsets, which are usually quite different from the Victorian corsets. The Elizabethan corsets are much more comfortable (I used the long multi-layered cloth strips as stays, and a length of oak as the busk). I could even run (short distances) while wearing an Elizabethan corset (and the rest of the Elizabethan outfit, too - bumroll, skirt, chemise, etc.). I would never attempt to run in a Victorian corset, if I ever considered wearing a Victorian corset at all.
ThE eNd Is NeAr HD
ThE eNd Is NeAr HD 2 yıl önce
Actually, getting ready back then was faster than we think , also women chose to where corsets because it was fashionable and worked as a bra , men where the ones that fabricated the whole anticorset movement because the industry was supported and actually ruled by women
Ariel Galles
Ariel Galles 2 yıl önce
Victorian: Oh no! I died from putting poison on my face Millennial: Oh no! I got melanoma from a tanning bed
Marsh Momma
Marsh Momma 2 yıl önce
Very accurate!
i will sue min yoongi because he infires me
i will sue min yoongi because he infires me 2 yıl önce
the only truth in this video some make up is actually poisonous.
Mary Joy Spohrer
Mary Joy Spohrer Yıl önce
It's always something!
Clare Houston
Clare Houston 3 yıl önce
Corsets were actually rarely laced that tightly amongst women.
Sunmi's washing machine
Sunmi's washing machine 2 yıl önce
it was actually seen as something vain to do just like modern day face tuning of your body in pictures
Doris Fromage
Doris Fromage 2 yıl önce
Yet there's the evidence of that misshapen liver...
Sunmi's washing machine
Sunmi's washing machine 2 yıl önce
@Doris Fromage our bodies are flexible, a pregnant woman will also have a drastic shift in her organs and she will be perfectly fine. besides, corsets were not worn like modern Spanks are. corsets served the purpose of what the bra does for us rn and they were there to support all the hoops and padding they might had under their clothes.
Gay _
Gay _ 2 yıl önce
You a time traveler?
knaesh ★
knaesh ★ 2 yıl önce
@Gay _ no,, just examples
Brooke P
Brooke P 2 yıl önce
It would’ve been amazing to have the emphasis on TIGHT LACING was the issue, not the corset in general as a rule. Corsets were not health hazards. Women were used to using them, so they would’ve been in significantly better shape than yourself.
MegRo 3 yıl önce
I love the historian with the red/ginger hair! Her voice and just whole demeanour is so enchanting and mysterious! Love our presenter always too argh best series!!
lilpluto 2 yıl önce
*if history class teaches stuff like this, I’d be interested in school for once*
gone 2 yıl önce
Ozzy the Bun exactly
ik6non 2 yıl önce
so you want to learn about lies then
inglorious_Machina 2 yıl önce
*History class already teaches plenty of half-truths though-*
Andrea 3 yıl önce
This channel is so interesting, makes history entertaining... glad youtube randomly recommended it.
Anna Adkins
Anna Adkins 2 yıl önce
Hey BTW the corset on the thumbnail is actually quite Victorian, and not Edwardian- a fact which is quite obvious through fairly little research. Also, tight lacing was far from the norm and most normal corset wear was essentially just a strapless bra- it was intended to support the chest.
Free Sundae
Free Sundae 3 yıl önce
Those pesky organs. Always getting in the way.
Diane Rose
Diane Rose 3 yıl önce
Your profile picture suits your comment 🤗
Coconutwater Tatyana
Coconutwater Tatyana 3 yıl önce
Rikard 3 yıl önce
It went extreme. But a corsette was created for support. But with time as with all things add meaning and layers of culture is added.
**Memorial**LED_ZEPPELIN- WarewolfGirl-73
**Memorial**LED_ZEPPELIN- WarewolfGirl-73 3 yıl önce
Erica Walsh
Erica Walsh 3 yıl önce
Ya know corsets were made for people specifically for them, and they would slowly break in the corset. to be more comfy and modern people have done things like climb trees, do pushups, and lift weights right?
Michelle 3 yıl önce
I wish you specified the difference between corsets used for tight lacing, and corsets used the way it was intended. I wear a corset now, and my niece saw the video, showed it to the family, and I was bombarded with “its not healthy!” “You’re killing yourself!” Etc.
Diane Greene
Diane Greene 3 yıl önce
Well, there's fantasy and then there's reality. I can remember watching the TV show "Leave it to Beaver" and being dumbfounded that Beaver's mother was cooking dinner in a going-out dress, heels and pearls. And she was all dressed up all the time! That's not how any mom I knew dressed.
Ace Lightning
Ace Lightning 3 yıl önce
That's why "housedresses" and "Housecoats" were popular. But you couldn't wear them where you might be seen - like opening the front door to bring in the newspaper.
Meisheen Calsado
Meisheen Calsado 2 yıl önce
Tight Lacing was only hugely popularize during late during late 1890s, though it started around 1850s. Also, as you can see in the pictures that they've shown, most of them were wearing Edwardian clothing. Therefore, they we're from Edwardian era, after tight lasing was popularize. Also, also, some photos from Victorian era were edited to make the waist look smaller, they didn't really had that crazy small waist. They also show photos of drawings, meaning they were just drawn to look like the ideal body of a woman, waist can't really go that small. Lastly, the main function of a corset is to give the bodice the right silhouette and help to carry all of that clothing, not to sofocate themselves just to have a tiny waist. Victorian women have some work to do, they are not stupid enough to tight lace all the time because they need to be able to move freely. They still need to move and breathe. Another fact for you guys, tge boycott around corset were started by men who were jealous of corset companies made by women who were rising in the industry. SO STOP MAKING IT SEEM THAT CORSETS ARE A BAD THING, THEY ARE JUST NORMAL UNDER GARMENTS!
Jenna 3 yıl önce
I love Susan! She is awesome! 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Ana 2 yıl önce
I could listen to Dr Kate Williams and Suzannah all day. I love their voices.
Ferrous black 🇦🇲
Ferrous black 🇦🇲 3 yıl önce
They hired that dude just to draw on him with markers
tom cline
tom cline 3 yıl önce
And he was shirtless in front of those two women,who I think are both pretty as hell. I'da been mortified! Then "GASP" SHE TOUCHED HIS NAKED PERSON!!!!!!
jrseahorse 2 yıl önce
I was trying to figure out if they were actually drawing on a real person, how it looked like the marker was pressing on real skin I couldn’t tell because that would be wierd I would think just draw on a mannequin but I guess it’s also easier to clean that way
Sasha Rohr
Sasha Rohr 2 yıl önce
Amy Smith
Amy Smith 2 yıl önce
Sasha Rohr yes
Drixi 2 yıl önce
This was just an odd choice 😂I was like, why is he here??
Marianna Malinovskaya
Marianna Malinovskaya 2 yıl önce
I could listen to these ladies talk all day. Their voices are so soothing!
Hedgy Verona
Hedgy Verona 3 yıl önce
Can anyone tell me if she‘s a real historian or just a person they hired to do the talking? Either way, really love these videos!
{𝕤𝕨𝕒𝕟} 2 yıl önce
I’m a goth so i really love corsets and when i got my own my mom always told me that women used to wear corsets so tightly that their ribs would break i never actually believed her.. This is horrifying
Cameron Warmerdam
Cameron Warmerdam 2 yıl önce
you can wear corsets dont worry. people rarely broke anything and those who did are the equivalents of the kardashians
Thespia 3 yıl önce
I love corsets. They make the period clothing look and feel right. When they fit properly, they are wonderful. None of this "cages" nonsense.
ThinMints4Life 2 yıl önce
Luni 2 yıl önce
Video: *starts* People who actually know how corsets work: could you be more wrong?
Hugo the pink cat
Hugo the pink cat 3 yıl önce
I love how she goes "ohhh shhhiii--" when the historian tells her about a product that made the cornea fall out. That was pretty much my reaction as well.
A Red Magic Marker
A Red Magic Marker 3 yıl önce
Your pic sums it up perfectly. XD
emmamaria 2 yıl önce
The narrator is a very well established historian as well...
Andreea Ioana
Andreea Ioana 3 yıl önce
Amazing channel, super informative and fun!
Allie Fry
Allie Fry 2 yıl önce
Imagine someday we are gonna be like the Victorian people to people in the future
quiverr 2 yıl önce
"the stained their skin dark in a coffin shaped structure called the tanning bed, some people would even get skin cancer from it but people still kept doing it, *risking their lives* "
Alex Plantum
Alex Plantum Yıl önce
Corsets are basically rigid back braces that use cords not Velcro. They make lifting anything way easier as well as making sure you’re lifting correctly (knees not back) and keeping great posture. Over tighten your back brace? Loosen it. Same thing with a corset. Also, gravity makes your organs shift. Breathing does too, as does wearing anything tight, eating, drinking, anything else. Serious organ shifting, like what happened with the liver, is a result of intentional tight-lacing which takes time, training, and knowledge to pull off without causing a lot of injury, and could still cause long-term damage. Tight-lacing is still being done today, people are getting ribs removed or tight corsets surgically implanted, but not everyone who has ever worn a corset or back brace does that. The only difference then was that there weren’t surgical options for the women who wanted smaller and smaller waists
Elfenlied 2 yıl önce
It wouldn't have hurt to mention that a lot of these "extremely small" waists actually were due to well tailored corsets and clothes and padding (!) in the hips. Especially in the Edwardian era.
Tee leSynclair
Tee leSynclair 2 yıl önce
I used to be obsessed with corsets when I was younger, around 14. The place where you can buy corsets refused to fit me for a corset at that age because apparently at that age your bones are softer and corsets can damage your body. I ended up getting a cheap one and I grew out of wanting to do waist training
Ideoform Sun
Ideoform Sun 3 yıl önce
Hat pins sounded useful for more than just hats. They called them deadly sins for a reason. There is a fine line between attractive good personal hygiene and obsessive vanity.
Reene person
Reene person 2 yıl önce
As someone who wears corsets i actually like them and they didn't squeeze the life out of me. They help my posture, were a great support and form fitting. It is easy to wear them too tight though...when she was getting light headed I was confused because I could run around like normal after I got used to mine, I want to know how tight hers was man
YesThatMousyIris Yıl önce
It was tightlacing that cause the problems in the organs. Its how you use the corset. I'm glad they mention it. I also learn you kinda have to learn to breathe differently as well.
RJ Robertson-DeGraaff
RJ Robertson-DeGraaff 2 yıl önce
They really should've added information about how common those corset injuries were. They made it seem like every woman was injured but it was essentially a long sturdy bra. Seems like maybe a few dozen died or were injured by their misuse of corsets. As someone who wears chest/breast binders nearly all day most days, my breathing is barely effected by the binder even in exercise and those binders are designed to flatten/constrict the chest as much as possible. Despite safety warnings lots of trans individuals wear too tight binders for too long but still there are no instances of death anywhere. Even while exercising (which you aren't supposed to do in a binder), it barely effects the amount of breath or how deeply you can breathe.
Alex Wright
Alex Wright 2 yıl önce
one of the things i dislike about docs like these is that they omit certain details. tightlacing was only done on very specific occasions, and rarely for extended periods of time. those photos and illustrations that they showed were doctored just like they are today, photoshop came in a different form back then, but it existed all the same
rina 2 yıl önce
5:17 “tight lacing is something a minority of people did” I agree, they should have emphasized this, but reading the comments, it seems almost everyone is aware corsets were not normally use this way.
Cassidy Starke
Cassidy Starke 2 yıl önce
Nonse of them were photos they were all illustrations, and they were drawn like that on purpose.
H M 2 yıl önce
*people had such high standards back then, but nothing much has changed until now and hearing this breaks me cause you have to look 'perfect' to have someone love you*
Lucy Vlog and Art
Lucy Vlog and Art 2 yıl önce
Corsets were worn by all women and were not oppressive,corsets were not agonizing
Miles Sharman
Miles Sharman 3 yıl önce
🤦‍♀️ they do realise that a corset would have been made to fit properly and wasn't actually uncomfortable because it was meant to fit their bodies. (But obviously some would tye them too tight making it bad for them)
Yep 2 yıl önce
Sunmi's washing machine
Sunmi's washing machine 2 yıl önce
men were the ones who started this whole lie of corsets being bad for you
Miles Sharman
Miles Sharman 2 yıl önce
@Sunmi's washing machine yeah
Dylan Noneyabiz
Dylan Noneyabiz 2 yıl önce
I think they do realise, considering that the whole thing is about TIGHT-LACING of the corsets, made possible by the metal holes so the fabric wouldn't rip, and that they specifically mention several times that these issues were brought about by tight lacing. The bit when she tries on the corset is a bit dumb though- like obvs she's gonna find it weird if she's not used to it or it's not made for her.
Yaneth Aleman
Yaneth Aleman 2 yıl önce
corsets had the same purpose that a modern bra has, to support. She did say that only a minority of women tight lace, and that was harmful, but corsets weren't this killing machine that is said to be. Most women would secure their corsets to were it was supporting their body. Also women would brake into their corset, similar to how girls first wear training bras and hip padding was also used to make the illusion of a small waist
musubi 2 yıl önce
They only point out one reason for corsets - for a beautiful S-shape, but they were mostly there as support for the bust (just like a bra today). Woman usually didn't see them as anything harmful or out of the ordinary, but more as an everyday thing. Yes, it was also used to make the garments fit better but the fact that corsets were only there to change the bodyshape is not really accurate I think. Please point me out if I'm wrong :)
Gracie Gillard
Gracie Gillard 2 yıl önce
Now we know the true meaning of beauty is pain.
Annaelle May
Annaelle May 2 yıl önce
14:24 Her fashion is adorable! I really love her style!
David Ponseigo
David Ponseigo 2 yıl önce
This information just gives me more respect for women than I already had.
Curly Yasmin
Curly Yasmin 3 yıl önce
Pregnancy corset? Really? That scares me
Tuvela T
Tuvela T 3 yıl önce
If you look at it again, it had additional grommets on the sides to accommodate the growing belly/baby. Tight lacing was very bad, but most women used corsets like we use bras and spanx today: to shape and support.
Michael Pelz
Michael Pelz 3 yıl önce
What's great was she also said men were against it, and rightfully so. In today's world it's nice to hear something good about men.
PinoyAkoPh 3 yıl önce
Curly Yasmin ???
Louisa Capell
Louisa Capell 3 yıl önce
Oh good grief. Shes just perpetuating myths. Corseting wasn't anything like this. A pregnancy corset was like wearing a maternity belt today. It's for support. Almost none tight laced. And why is she talking about it taking HOURS to get into a corset??? It took minutes. This is a tissue of lies.
Lauren 2 yıl önce
Anytime I see that red headed woman being interviewed I know it’s gonna be good. She’s so knowledgeable and passionate tAlking about this history it shows
JonnesTT 2 yıl önce
I love how theres this one scientist who tries to just explain stuff to without sensationalism and everyone else just goes with the horrormonger aesthetic. But even the data shows a slow cooking horror in like 70% of the examined cases XD
Freya_The_Rat 2 yıl önce
Are they aware of the fact that the women were drawn thinner in magazines or paintings to appear prettier?
Ashlee's Bathroom
Ashlee's Bathroom 2 yıl önce
I wear corsets, just not too tight. Tight enough that it wont slip off, but loose enough that I can breathe and I'm not in pain. It helps with my bad back, posture, and anxiety. It kinda feels like I'm being hugged. But corsets are not for everyone.
Teuta Ilyriana
Teuta Ilyriana 2 yıl önce
The Regency Era (Bridgerton) corsets weren’t used for tight-lacing. They had very little boning and were used to smooth out the silhouette, rather than to cinch in the waist. Since the waistline in Regency Era fashions was just under the bust, there was absolutely no reason to make the waist tiny, because no one would see it. Why be uncomfortable, if you’re not even impressing anyone? So, they simply didn’t do it. Also, no one, but no one wore their corset directly up against their skin. There was always a softer undergarment under it, to protect the skin and the corset from each other: corsets were spot clean only, so you definitely didn’t want the sweat and skin oils to come into contact with your precious corset. Therefore, no skin abrasions from wearing them, unless you were wearing one that was very much the wrong size for you. Personally, I find corsets much more comfortable than modern day bras. So, there, lol! 😉
M. E.
M. E. 3 yıl önce
Ob corsets: Most, if not all, of the photographs depicting women with shockingly small waists were edited. There was no photoshop back then but they had other techniques. Tightlacing was dangerous but it was frowned upon by most parts of society or at least out of reach for practical reasons if you were a working women (including housework).
No Name
No Name 3 yıl önce
Nari Shemintarc true! They would wear light clothes with a black background and the areas around the waist was painted black like the background, making the waist look smaller!
mook_butt 3 yıl önce
People also forget that the hips and bust widths (both in images and in reality) were exaggerated to emphasize the tiny waist.
Jasmine Bloor
Jasmine Bloor 2 yıl önce
You see how in a lot of the old Victorian photos they are in front of a pretty blank backdrop, they actually just took a pen to it and coloured in the waist part. The earliest photoshopping.
nishtha jain
nishtha jain 2 yıl önce
Karolina zebrowaska has a video on it
Cassidy Starke
Cassidy Starke 2 yıl önce
How can none of you see that they’re NOT photo’s. Like the women said in the video they’re just illustrations because no women can look like that. Pay attention before you make a comment please.
Syed Mehreen
Syed Mehreen 3 yıl önce
I just discovered a treasure of videos! Love this channel
Sunnie 3 yıl önce
Also, the fact that when the corset was being put on, she acted like she couldn't breathe meant she was DEFINITELY tightlaced, but later, in the exercise segment said that she wasn't.
Genny Kaneshiro Castañeda
Genny Kaneshiro Castañeda 2 yıl önce
It probably took her a hot minute to get used to it.
Christine Butler
Christine Butler Yıl önce
The ideal seventeen inch waist described as Scarlett O'Hara's pride did indeed exist, though probably only for about a decade in the late 1850's- mid to late 1860's. The Victorian period, don't forget, lasted from around 1835-1900.
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