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man i couldn't stop crying when he started talking about his mother... seeing my dad lose his mind slowly was so devastating as I was the only child that tried to take care of him.

Loved hearing the story about Doris. So glad she got relief from her distressing symptoms and lived happily for those 15 years.

Ditto, Tim, ditto. 35 year veteran of MICU nursing, now working with a few fall-through-the-cracks folks in the community of course with no health insurance. Dr. Palmer's book does bring a lot of important stuff into one book. I'm starting to see a three pronged approach to treatment. Entheogens for certain behavioral and addictive diagnosis, properly applied ketogenic diet and liberal mentoring to get folks to a better place. I truly wish we had treatment modalities in place to turn to for those who do not have health insurance. Learned helpless and habituation are difficult to break through, you gotta be there 24/7 over the long haul to keep things going in the right direction, and give folks hope, and that means you end up caring a great deal. Treatments are coming, but not fast enough for me seeing the suffering on the daily.

Thank you Dr. Palmer for sharing the story about your mother. ❤

Only in 13 minutes and WOW! powerful!! And, Tim is a master podcast host and at choosing his words wisely!! Thanks Tim and Chris for sharing this!

Thank you Tim for posting this excellent podcast. You’re doing amazing work. Thank you!!!❤❤❤

You are both so well spoken. Thank you for this life changing information!

Chris is just brilliant !

So useful. I’m chugging down chicken breast at work listening to you say you have to be careful with protein. I’m in an insulin resistance pit, thinking I could go nuts on protein instead of carbs. Time to rethink I guess (I’ve not been budging weight so this could be why). I just want someone to tell me what to eat 😠

Great talk guys! Wow.....I thought I've been thru a lot. I am convinced most of our mental health comes from our "roots" better known as our guts. I stay high on endorphins and BDNF that my bulging 70 year old muscles make. Not to brag but they once benched 400 lbs at 183 lbs. Age 29 ketones rock !!!! My reflexes and wit are way faster when hungry. DONT FEAR HUNGER IT WILL PASS!

Psychedelic’s definitely have potential to deal with mental health symptoms like anxiety and depression, I would like to try them again but it’s just so hard to source here

Praise the Lord for the internet, and for all people who generously share vital information that address people's needs. I usually run to the internet to search for answers to any problem I have - be it about health, spirituality, cooking and even such a trivial question as to whether I can mix turmeric with tea. Thank you so much, Tom and Dr. Palmer, for all the extremely valuable information you shared in this podcast and in the others that you made. Yes, I could feel the passion you have for the work that you do. May your tribe increase. God bless you.

I love Tim's change in content from optimizing life to investigating life's deeper issues like trauma, depression, relationship issues etc. Episodes like this one with Dr. Palmer make The Tim Ferriss Show the most important podcast in my life, maybe one of the most important resources on all things life, honestly. I didn't get much guidance when I was young, so I turn to podcasts by Tim and Rogan, books by Dr. Gabor Maté and Terrence Real for that.

One of THE greatest most useful AND informative videos on TRshow. I usually can’t learn too much from TRshow videos because interviews are so surface and shallow but this felt like a lesson, it’s a must for me to listen to it again. Thank you Tim Ferris for taking the time to ask thoughtful questions and thank you to Chris Palmer for answering them just as thoughtfully. There is a huge disconnect in what doctors know and how it is explained to us. But this was wonderful!

Thank you Tim for treating his story about his mother with such compassion and care.

Dr. Palmer…I feel like I have lived your mother’s life. Her story makes me feel less alone. Thank you so much for sharing it and for your hard work in treating people with mental disorders. I feel like there is hope for me. ❤

Tim, since you are a meditator, I am wondering if you know about Dr. Jin Shenbao, who has a story of having healed himself with Taoist meditation and is now also helping others with amazing results. He believes that it is important to back his work with science. He is a 40-year-old Chinese, living in China, but being open to Western approaches. For me, healing has always been connected to the whole being. Metabolism is of course, key!

Marginalization of mental health issues is holding back solutions for millions of suffering people - still. today. 2022. Tim is in a position where he can, and grateful he did, speak candid about personal mental health issues he's dealing with. Thank you for doing that, every contribution helps.

Always great work Tim and Chris.. I started crying in the beginning of the pod when Chris Spoke of his mother. I can completely understand. Have a good Holiday!

my brother is a paranoid schizophrenic with bipolar disorder, he hears things and occasionally sees things that are not there. he was diagnosed over 25 years ago, its completely ruined hes life, he can't take care of himself, no self esteem, he's getting very overweight, depressed and has lost all hope, I see the pain in my moms eyes knowing she can't do anything for him. I'm experimenting with the carnivore diet on myself and seeing great results, in a few weeks I'll try get my brother to go on the diet, thank u for giving us hope 🙏

Holy crap. Amazing podcast. I am a therapist and for years I've been trying to put into words what Tim said with the school analogy... I have always felt that there's an underlying connective factor... My only hang up is how the eating disorder recovery community might take in this information...they have made/perhaps have had to make such a swing to one extreme of "there is no such thing as a bad food" in order to get people actually eating again so I wonder about this... And I think of some of my clients who could benefit from this content, but knowing that either their eating disorder could get kicked up or the recovery that they've made will "argue" with it... Something to think about for me.

Just wanted to voice my thanks for Dr. Palmer's strength to tell the story of his mother. This personal backstory was the final kick I needed to try this diet based approach after 30 years of trying everything else to battle major depression. I was running desperately low on hope for any relief in the future. Thank you for your courage and vulnerability. I now have faith this could work.

Great interview. Appreciate Dr. Palmer speaking openly about his mother’s experience & how it’s impacted his life’s work. Mental illnesses are eminently treatable. Dr. Palmer discusses how interventions that heal metabolic dysfunction can be a real breakthrough. Thank you!

Chris Palmer shared his motivation for helping people. I am sure his mom is at peace now.

Love Chris Palmer and I'm so inspired by his work. Tim, you lost me when you minimized people's suffering with chronic fatigue and similar issues akin to Lyme. I know so many people who suffer from fibro and chronic fatigue, and they are suffering too, and could absolutely benefit from getting their bodies in ketosis.

I love this. I love this soo deeply you can’t even imagine. Chris’ life story. How he pulled out of it. And now helping the rest of the world. And the way he’s doing it. Beyond gratitude. Is there such a thing? One up from gratitude? Wonder what it might be, one up from gratitude, lol. If you know, post it here please. 😉😘 I feel it. But what is it?

I really appreciate your dedication to helping people with mental illness. I've been suffering from mental illness for years now and several of your interviews have helped me. Thank you so much!!

I am reading Brain Energy now. This interview is a great addition. Hearing his backstory makes Dr. Palmer even more admirable. The idea of looking for a common cause for all mental illness is quite radical esp when you realize psychiatry really does model the allopathic model: identify the abnormal symptom, treat it, make the person well.

I shared my story on BipolarCast on YT. I've been keto for four and a half years for bipolar. I have not had any episodes nor needed any medications ever since. Red meat is a huge part of staying stable and combatting brain fog for me. I'm just not sharp on any other type of protein. So excited to see Dr Palmer here!!

Woo. Right before this 10:42 he almost broke my heart. 😢

I realized this phenomena years ago when I went on the Atkins diet without the bacon or cheeses! My brain cleared, my energy soared, and pounds melted off. My sister has dealt with schizoid affect, paranoia, ocd... for decades... She's been hospitalized for decades... I need to find out how to get her facility to change her diet... I finally was able to the court to make me her medical guardian. Your video echoes what I've known for years... I will look for your website to connect. Thank you for sharing this!

On Ketogenic Diet for 3 Years now. Depression came back, but without this paranoid touch. But had to start again with Fluoxetine. Will stick to the diet.

When I go Keto, going back to my first run with the Atkins in the 90s, I feel superhuman. Just like you both mentioned, I sleep 3-4 hours per night, my memory & cognition are magnitudes better, and my strength and endurance are better. Conversely, even moderate carbs send my energy, emotions, cognition, and memory into a negative tailspin. *I also get very sensitive to light, sound, temperature, and stress. Thank you both so, so much for this fantastic talk. 🏆

Outstanding offering. TYSM. Dr Palmer is going to impact so many lives. I will have Dr Palmer's new book in my library.

Your guest made me consider my mother and her incredible evil and cruelty to me, her eldest, with some degree of almost compassion. First time ever.

Friend of mine who has paranoid schizophrenia was homeless December 2018 when it was -3 degrees. I said he could stay till he was housed etc but no drugs or alchahol. He didnt leave the house. I cooked full english breakfasts and meat and veg evening meals. No bread and cakes in the house. He became calm and after a few weeks i asked about his voices his reply ‘there so quiet i can hardly hear them’. He was not on meds yet……… getting back into the nhs was a long process.

i feel for your past pain doc palmer. your sensitivity and empathy is visible evidence of your humanity - a capacity that is rapidly being deliberately eroded in our world today. peace be upon you. 🙏

Thanks. This complements information by Dr. Jason Fung I’m weight loss and reversing T2D.

Thank you Tim for bringing this content / conversation to us. Dr. Palmer; thank you for sharing your story and the work you do. Respectfully. Stephanie

Thank you for sharing this. I love both of your transparency and openness with your past and using it to help others. Thank you.

This was great! Thank you so much to both of you for sharing this information!

What a great podcast!! I started keto a few months ago for gut health and felt better mentally almost immediately. I'm also interested in keto with respect to alzheimer's disease. I did find a keto supermarket sweet snack that I have fallen in love with, and I laughed when you brought that up, but otherwise I prepare everything I eat myself. Thank you for this! I will listen to it again and again ❤️

Thank you Dr Palmer for you genuine testimony. I so admire you for being such a good son and person. you are telling TRUTH which we are so hungry for. We are so tired of BS. Thank you so much

Thanks Tim. It’s amazing you put out top notch content day after day. Doing gods work

I am extremely moved at the story of your mother. Thank you for sharing

This was excellent, thank you so much for the amazing people you bring to the podcast each time

This is absolutely one of your most profound episodes. And one of your most profound and engaging and, dare I say, IMPORTANT guests. Thank your much for bringing this work to your show. It will help many many people. It will help me to help myself. Starting now.

Love the straight jacket analogy! It's true. We are ignoring why the cell is hyper-excitable in the first place. I often think of it like it's panicking! It doesn't have enough energy or micronutrient or macronutrient cofactors for basic function or upkeep.

Thank you Dr.Palmer for sharing. You are saving lives!!!❤ Thank you Tim for your great content 🎉.

Wow started watching this video and didn’t notice it was Tim freakin Ferris s podcast!! Tim is an awesome human, and helps millions of people with his spread of knowledge and being a ginea pig of his experiments, thank you!

Thank you for this great important podcast .. Chris Palmer .. respect . We can learn so much about the new insights in the psychiatric world . We need No DSM . WorldTaperingDay 🙏

Wow!! what powerful, genuine and inspirational story. thanks so much for such a wonderful educational podcast:)

Surprised you didn't get into your work with psychedelics and mental disorders but this is a fascinating conversation. Hope you can have Chris on for part two. (For example to discuss optimal range of blood bhb)

Great episode, and amazing words in the end about kindness and compassion!

Incredibly important conversation thank you. I work with clients that has schizophrenia and because of lack of understanding around this illness there’s so many stereotypes about the client base that I truly love.

Today I tested positive for HSV after having a horrible outbreak , and feel the same way you described in your interview . Listening to you share your overcome experience gave me the glim of hope I needed to hear . I am glad that there are people like you out there who just want to help other people who are struggling with the same issues . Your words gave me the courage I needed to hear today to know that it's ok . I can still be myself and now I'm enjoying my life the way I am supposed to . it is a blessing I came across you Dr Ofenmu TRshow channel

You are both amazing. Thank you so much for your knowledge and expertise.

Such a very sad personal story. It is so heartbreaking. Thank you for sharing and God bless you. You should be very proud of the work you are doing to help inform us and save us from losing hope!❤

Been meaning to listen Dr Palmer at length and I love Tim Ferris's analytical and critical thinking perspective, so I had to listen.

Bless you for giving many of us hope. I have suffered greatly along with my 25 y told Son. I sleep crying praying for his healing. You have today giving us lost hope. Thank you so much to both of you 😊

Thank you Tim for this fabulous podcast & Dr Palmer. I ordered his book and the audiobook. The information is so important and presented in a logical & user friendly manner.

thank you Mr. F for showing us that there are drs out there that didn't just do it for the money and really cares about helping people it's gd RARE anymore and this gives me hope. 🌬️🌪️💋❤️👻🔥

I've been recently thinking about the limitations of diagnosing people via the DSM. Every disorder lies on a continuum and overlaps each other. And labeling with a disorder can lead one to feel less agency and being a slave to their disorder with little solutions

Thank you both for your courage to speak the Truth about the role of diet and fasting on mental health. BRAVO!!!

Great interview, have read the book, it's very interesting and convincing . Even better with more comprehensive view and more science cited to back up the arguments is "Metabolic Madness" by Dr. Rachel Brown, a British psychiatrist, get her for an interview, Tim

Amazing stuff! I love how you both are willing to bridge the gap between mental health and the rest of the body (and it seems that the bridge is metabolic in nature). Perhaps this is beyond the scope of this podcast, but I am increasingly concerned about my 72 yr old mother who has been diagnosed with advanced carotid artery disease (85% stenosis of the left internal carotid). Her condition, she believes, has manifested in cognitive decline (presumably due to cerebral hypoperfusion). The doctors want to perform a carotid endarterectomy to mitigate the risk of stroke, but simply stated, I do not have a good feeling about this procedure whatsoever. Anyway, I will conclude my long-winded explanation with this question: Can a ketogenic diet improve cognitive decline associated with vascular disease? Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.

This person seems like hes an amazing human being... truly

My experience with the doctors throughout my life is that I'm wrong and wasting their time by complaining about the thing that hurts, or I'm worried about this lump. The idea of asking a doctor to read something so we can discuss treatment options is so alien to me.

Recently heard about The power threat meaning framework by Dr Lucy Johnstone, beyond dms5 on podcast it's not just in your head

Hundreds of bipolar patients reporting remission or significant reduction of symptoms on ketogenic diet. Extensive video review of this on my channel. Dr. Palmer is a true pioneer and will catalyse a historic change the way we conceptualise and treat serious mental illness.

Got the book, amazing. Great conversation. So important.

Thank you Tim for your honesty, kindness and sharing such great content

Anyone cure their depression and health anxiety with this diet. This is a great podcast, but watched others podcasts which disagree with these two individuals. Trying desperately to get my life back.

Interesting. 🙏❤

Such an incredible episode. Thank you.

It seems like psychiatry is in the midst of a quantum leap, between psychedelics and (to me, novel) work like this. I am a family nurse practitioner, and haven't worked closely with schizophrenic patients this lifetime. What i am wondering is how hard it is for someone suffering from schizophrenia to make a shift to following a ketogenic diet.

Mr Ferriss, thank you. Mr Chris, thank you for sharing this. As painful this is, thank you. Your courage increases mine.

Finding this video is like finding pirate treasure. I cherish every word of this conversation.

Thank you very much for this video /interview. ❤️

Love hearing from Dr Palmer.

I hate the psychiatric profession with vigor, long experience both personal and vicarious but Chris Palmer you are totally and utterly a complete hero and inspiration to me. Your compassion and broad thinking shines through in the most amazing way I could ever imagine coming across

This is so fascinating I’ve downloaded the book. I am vegan as I can’t bear the thought of animals suffering or eating corpses, I understand that is not everyone’s feeling or experience and try not to judge that so not asking for an opinion on that. I wondered on keto vegan in terms of this. Please no explaining why we should eat meat or dairy, just interesting info on vegan x thank you

Great interview Tim. Thank you!

Bright Line Eating...Dr Susan Pierce Thompson....this way of eating will achieve what ketogenic diet does and it generally improves the sleep . I think Bright line Eating is a more gentle way for the severely mentally ill not to have cell excitability...

The guy that did the 20 mile runs while manic 😂😂😂. That’s something I would do 😅 might as well. Joking side this is an a awesome podcast! Learning about Dr. Palmer’s story had cry (and I never cry) because it really shows that this is his true mission in life, this is his purpose - to help people with mental illness and mental disorders (we really need to find a new term for it 😅) - and it also helps that’s he has had his own struggles therefore he can truly understand

I guess I'm very late to the party with Tim Ferriss, but I think this is the most intelligent and thoughtful interviewer I have ever seen on TRshow. His questions for the doctor and understanding of the subject blow away some actual medical doctors who have interviewed Dr. Chris Palmer.

Does anyone have any links to the studies he mentions in the video that he suggests showing psychiatrists when asking them to help with keto stuff? I thought links would be in the video description or something but they’re not.

Wonderful conversation 💓 Thank you both!

Two years ago I realized that I could head off a panic attack -- and in fact, most anxiety -- by drinking water. Ten months ago I thought I was about to have depression, but said, "Wait! I'm not depressed! I'm HUNGRY!" I haven't had depression since. Don't know about the future, but eating consciously works for now.

The ”lets find food” theory does seem plausible. And that mental disorder is reduced seem logical. You cannot survive in a depressed state in nature. Also a real manic state would also be dangerous since it would lead to more energy spent. Very interesting. Another thing that Ive been thinking about is how the people I met in the slums outside Nairobi could be so happy. It have been stated many times that our nice safe societies seem to produce mental illness. But how come..

"None of them worked" Says it all

What about anorexia and the impact of mental restriction? See also Alia Crum’s studies on the impact of beliefs on ghrelin responses. A ketogenic diet, is restrictive not only in terms of macronutrients but also socially and culturally. These have key psychological and physiological long term impacts. Long term effective treatment for anorexia is not only about sustaining a weight above a BMI threshold, but also addressing the fear response of food and weight gain causing to autonomic and compulsive behaviour patterns.

So EXCITING, that chronic disorders are finally being looked at as to CAUSE, rather than symptoms! Metabolic dysfunction causes symptoms across the board, BOTH mental & physical. But because our medical system has created distinct specialties with distinct medication protocols it necessarily ONLY TREATS SYMPTOMS (never finding cause.) Billions upon billions is spent treating symptoms short term. The body/mind is HOLISTIC. And must be treated as such for any progress to be made. Mitochondrial function (or dysfunction) is key & likely to be the causative agent in many if not most, chronic disease. Thanks for connecting the dots Chris Palmer! This is exciting & welcome news adding one more important piece to the human puzzle of health!

Thank you for validating that metformin I was taking 2000 MG a day for inslan residence pre diabetic

and yes we do need to be our own advocates. Research research research💖☮

AWESOME JOB TO YOU BOTH!

sorry to hear of the passing of Doris from COVID- would wonder about role of depleted microbiome on keto- also not sure re diagnosis or schizophrenia- most patients with refractory schizophrenia over a lifetime would have presented with significant cognitive impairment from the disease itself

I believe Dr. Palmer's work to be critical. I've listened to a handful of interviews of his, and bravo Tim, the best one by far. Speaks to your interviewing and listening skills. A huge thank you to the both of you! I'm inching myself towards a keto diet after years of struggling with ocd which has found myself pretty much on house arrest for over a decade. I've gotten to a gluten free diet, which alone has given me so much mental clarity. It seems obvious that your mitochondira need to be functioning correctly. Thank you so much again!!

extremely interesting. A friend turned me onto it. Plan to listen again. Thanks much!