1177 BC: The Year Civilization Collapsed (Eric Cline, PhD)

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From about 1500 BC to 1200 BC, the Mediterranean region played host to a complex cosmopolitan and globalized world-system. It may have been this very internationalism that contributed to the apocalyptic disaster that ended the Bronze Age. When the end came, the civilized and international world of the Mediterranean regions came to a dramatic halt in a vast area stretching from Greece and Italy in the west to Egypt, Canaan, and Mesopotamia in the east. Large empires and small kingdoms collapsed rapidly. With their end came the world’s first recorded Dark Ages. It was not until centuries later that a new cultural renaissance emerged in Greece and the other affected areas, setting the stage for the evolution of Western society as we know it today. Professor Eric H. Cline of The George Washington University will explore why the Bronze Age came to an end and whether the collapse of those ancient civilizations might hold some warnings for our current society.
Considered for a Pulitzer Prize for his recent book 1177 BC, Dr. Eric H. Cline is Professor of Classics and Anthropology and the current Director of the Capitol Archaeological Institute at The George Washington University. He is a National Geographic Explorer, a Fulbright scholar, an NEH Public Scholar, and an award-winning teacher and author. He has degrees in archaeology and ancient history from Dartmouth, Yale, and the University of Pennsylvania; in May 2015, he was awarded an honorary doctoral degree (honoris causa) from Muhlenberg College. Dr. Cline is an active field archaeologist with 30 seasons of excavation and survey experience.
The views expressed in this video are those of the speaker and do not necessarily reflect the views of the National Capital Area Skeptics.

@andrewwilliams9599 3 yıl önce
As a layperson untrained in archeology, this is utterly fascinating -- particularly the numerous parallels that can be drawn between 3200 years ago and now. We have a lot still to learn from the ancient world.
@nunyanunya4147 Yıl önce
the point ov history is to learn from it. but the way sociaty uses it i think it may be best to use history as a playbill. as in 'OH a global pandimic... yep leads to food and fuel resource loss and panic in smaller countries.... rome fell to less. LETS GO COVID/SHRI LANKA!!"
@seeingimages 7 aylar önce
The global warming-climate change bandwagon just keeps rolling. 🥱😴
@BrazilianImperialist 6 aylar önce
They don't want you to know the truth
@ossiedunstan4419 6 aylar önce
What have we got to learn, More ancient ignorance and superstition. NO thank you.
@StankyLegs 2 yıl önce
Dr. Clines energy for this topic is so infectious! He has me so interested in the late bronze era. Watching this now for a second time!
@CorollaryOfTheApothecary Yıl önce
Me too 😁
@teresasee7337 8 aylar önce
@WKidd1776 6 aylar önce
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@WKidd1776 6 aylar önce
@OkieSketcher1949 2 yıl önce
Very good lecture. After years of history classes and reading history books this in perhaps one of the best explanations of what took place in this area. Thank you. I really enjoyed listening to you. And, yes, history does repeat itself and those who refuse to learn history are destined to re-learn it, i.e. “us today”.
@nunyanunya4147 Yıl önce
*posted from iphone#
@Laurencemardon Yıl önce
He’s fantastic! Laughing all the way to lunchtime.
@ro7425 3 yıl önce
That was an amazing lecture, really got me thinking about things I didn't know about. Also, I love how this is proof that history is always relevant … very similar to the present day.
@SapaHollidaySaparonia 3 yıl önce
According to GISP2 Ice Core data, each great civilization of the past reached its peak during a spike in temperature, but then quickly faded in-correlation with the sharp and prolonged spell of cooling that followed. You mentioned earthquakes, there'd probably also be volcanoes which can completely decimate crops by shutting out sunlight, especially during a solar minimum. ps I loved this lecture
@cwj9202 3 yıl önce
The ash which settles on crop land can also decimate crops.
@breezy3725 3 yıl önce
Aren't we headed into a solar minimum?
@chrisyeomans5547 3 yıl önce
They didnt have led lights back then
@siffilus4461 3 yıl önce
You can watch civilizations by there economic systems
@1rayw 3 yıl önce
Except that Cline is a religious zealot who alters history to suit religious beliefs and not the truth.
@OnlyAFoolsHope 3 yıl önce
Great lecture. The Mayans of South America inherited the belief that time was circular...(thus the Mayan calandar) and that you can forsee the future by looking at the past. They described the rise and fall of nations as "Great Ages" even incorporating the stars as signs of things to come. Interesting that a people halfway around the globe had such knowledge of the world so long ago!
@stevencharlton7693 3 yıl önce
It’s interesting to note that this also relates to events that were happening in the Orkney Islands during the same period. Before circa 1,500 BC we had community burials at sites such as Orkahaugr and The Tomb of the Eagles, and large building projects such as the Standing Stones and the Brodgar Complex. Once we pass that date, there is a huge shift from these practices with more simple burials in cist graves, and a lack of large building projects. When we reach the 1,000 BC point, we then see the return of a more structured society with the beginning of the Broch Builders time...
@KirstenandTom2011 3 yıl önce
Sounds like a massive volcano that erupted and people moved from the north to the Mediterranean coast. Southern coast of France and later Sardinia and Sicily. Maybe the Sardinians and Sicilians moved east due to the massive influx of people from the north. Hence where the Sea people came from. There is evidence that a massive volcano in Iceland erupted at this time.
@giderahwolf 3 yıl önce
@@KirstenandTom2011 Hello. Can You please recommend me some reliable resource on this topic ?
@cynthiaharris92 3 yıl önce
Activity at the Neolithic Orkney structures and tombs, and most of their equivalents further south, including Stonehenge and Silbury Hill ceased quite suddenly around 2,300 BC. This coincided with the arrival of beaker culture and migrants into Britain from the east and the start of the Bronze Age (in Britain). Therefore there is a gap of about 1,000 years between the Orkney civilisation and the events in the Mediterranean, although these might have had some knock-on effect on Britain in the late Bronze Age?
@stevencharlton7693 3 yıl önce
@@giderahwolf It seems that there is a possibility of several eruptions around Iceland - premium.weatherweb.net/weather-in-history-400-to-100bc/
@giderahwolf 3 yıl önce
@STEVEN CHARLTON Hello, and Thanks. I am interested in this 'weather/geology related' topics about the past - but as I am no professional and this topic is not yet well established in our land, I find it hard to find some info. :-)
@MoosesValley 3 yıl önce
Thank you Professor Cline, that was a very interesting and informative lecture, delivered with great passion and humor.
@timmurphy2221 3 yıl önce
I thoroughly enjoyed your presentation and the context you offer about the calamity that various societies around 1177 BC. I wonder if you have also looked at the role of deforestation and limited timber available for shipping and to sustain navies to protect shipping. I had always wondered about the Sea Peoples and their role either as a boogieman or a scapegoat.
@murbella7 2 yıl önce
I am not into archeology at all, nor history at this level, but I watched it to the end. So well presented.
@pulsartcreative4349 3 yıl önce
What a brilliant lecture by Eric Cline. Very informative!
@judithglasser3072 2 yıl önce
Absolutely loved this lecture, brilliant, accurate, accesible and very humorous! Definitely I have become a follower of Dr. Cline!
@trevorperry3081 5 yıl önce
Came out of curiosity, stayed an hour because this was the most interesting history lesson I've ever listened to. Why cant middle and high school history classes be taught like this?
@StLaparole 5 yıl önce
@Bruinsbegonias 5 yıl önce
Adolescents are typically more concerned with hormones than history.
@RyanNerd 5 yıl önce
b/c middle and high school history teachers have not went on archaeological digs, they do not have a passion, amazing memory, and knowledge of the subject matter as does Dr. Cline. Instead we have over 12 years of public schooling, we’re meant to find out what we’re truly passionate about. Instead, those 12 years are spent developing an obsession with grades, the ability to regurgitate information, and the realization that achievement is more important than understanding.
@JohnSmith-up3kt 5 yıl önce
That is because, the teachers that teach history are told to teach from a text book not to think outside the book.
@chrismalcomson7640 2 yıl önce
When you look at modern time periods like the industrial revolution until today you're still only looking at about 300 years since we were living in a feudal system. Even the universal right to vote in the US is only 60 years old. A lot can happen in these time periods in the ancient world and we just get a glimpse of an event and don't see the gradual creep of prevailing trends.. Great lecture!!
@sammyrnaj 6 aylar önce
Dr Cline has a lovely, spontaneous & conversational manner of presentation. With humoristic puns, it makes it entertaining. 😊
@basicdesign1 2 yıl önce
Très bien informé, étayé, cohérent et en plus Mr Cline est agréable à écouter. Et le sujet est d'actualité, c'est le moins qu'on puisse dire - et aucune chance qu'on trouve ça dans les mainstream. Merci beaucoup pour ces informations et pour la qualité de la prestation.
@missatrebor 3 yıl önce
What a great lecture and to the collapse Eric Cline is describing at 22:26 most certainly vulcanic eruptions should be added, but he probably means that these are results of earthquakes? Indeed what a time to be alive in this age to be able to follow this and other lectures for free. Compared to my history education some 60 years ago the difference is enormous, it is not comparable. A joy to follow these and other lectures at my age!
@pgantioch8362 2 yıl önce
Very nice accounting of two of the classical cradles of civilization, the Nile & the Tigris-Euphrates. But what about the other two? Would Dr Cline ever write a book on the civilizations around the Indus & Yellow Rivers? There was a lot going on in the 1st century BCE in Asia: Confucius, Lao Zi (Daoism), Sun Zi (Bing Fa, The Art of War), Zoroaster, the Buddha in India, ETC. And plenty before that, too.
@geosutube 3 yıl önce
This is the second of his presentations I have viewed. He knows his subject. He does not have to refer to notes. He knows his names and his dates. He is clearly a professional in every sense of the word. He knows the names in his field, the state of current digs and research. When I get a chance, I am getting his book. I’m also searching for any videos on this take on Exodus. Most of all, he’s funny and relaxed.
@SuperNintendawg 3 yıl önce
He's a great presenter but he's probably given this talk on his book a million times. Referring to your notes is essential for historians because there's so many gd facts and dates.
@MrSahansdal 3 yıl önce
Even when all the experts agree, they may well be wrong. - Bertrand Russell
@crusindc5282 2 yıl önce
The reasons his presentation is smooth are 1) he has excellent long term memory and 2) he is well practiced from decades of reciting to students. Excellent professors could almost give their standard lectures in their sleep. That is no insult. It comes with the job.
@meteor2012able 2 yıl önce
@@dp6003 please state your reasons ... otherwise, you will be taken for a jerk.
@samandchar2004 3 yıl önce
Absolutely loved this and am going to find the book. One thing I’d elaborate on is of the points that we still face now, “Greek economy tanks” isn’t as relevant today, I’d suggest the probable global recession we’re heading into will basically be the equivalent for current times.
@craigrbrown 3 yıl önce
I’d be happy to pay to sit thru a class with this man! He was just engaging like my best history professors Points to consider and evidence to support his arguments And in the end for the people who don’t like what he has to say...he clearly says...we don’t really know...this is the hypothesis I’ve worked out but we’re not 100% sure And that makes sense there is no complete one word answer but our society wants that and can’t handle when that doesn’t come out
@OctarineCode 2 yıl önce
this even better than a movie or a play, isnt? I'll pay too
@treasuresunderfoot7876 2 yıl önce
This is best & most satisfying explanation that I've read/heard on this period in time. The events sound chillingly like what's going on here in the US. Thanks for the AWESOME lecture!👍👍
@riosanto6296 3 yıl önce
I'm very interested in the impacts of economic stressors that might have also play a role in the collapse. Based on what I have read, they did have a semi complex market system based on bartering.
@martinadrempetic2395 2 yıl önce
This professor is so great! He is so interesting to listen to! And the topic is very interesting. Watched a documentary on History which featured him among the other historians
@endlesscrap 3 yıl önce
Excellent presentation! I hope there will be more of these types of lectures. Conscience, informative, and very well presented.
@DanMcLeodNeptuneUK 2 yıl önce
I'm three minutes in and I already love this guy! It's great having access to material like this!
@richardconrad9157 Yıl önce
A LONG but fascinating history talk. Took me awhile to appreciate it more fully (I have SO little Anthropology/ Archeology / Antiquities knowledge) - but finally I realized the zeigeist of his talk which most truly is FANTASTIC!!! The collapse that he describes certainly shows that "MULTIPLIER EFFECTS" of grouped CATASTROPHES will cause outrageously devastating COLLAPSES - which is TOTALLY GERMAINE! Much GREATER levels of such MULTIPLIER EFFECTS are most likely present in today's chaos and crises!!! Melting ice happening today is releasing ancient (and most likely other Novel) infectious agents, which will add to the MULTIPLIER EFFECTS which hugely complicate the threats to humans surviving (along with COVID-19).
@marcosmallmann9770 20 gün önce
What an amazing lecture! I could listen to Cline all day.
@martinmichael2535 3 yıl önce
This was EXCELLENT! Thanks for posting Eric Cline's lecture.
@chrispicquet733 2 yıl önce
Very informative!! I agree that the Bronze age collapse definitely happened! I strongly believe that the cause of the collapse seems to be never addressed.or if it is,it is downplayed to be a non contributor to the collapse.The Eruption 🌋 of Santorini was 10 times more powerful than the Eruption of Krakatoa.(which influenced world weather for a few years).geologists have have surveyed the Mediterranean basin to assess the impact of the Santorini event.It was to be determined that it was the single most catastrophic event in human history!
@lestermiller2717 3 yıl önce
Wonderful interesting talk I use to be involved in archeology and did a ten year study in China. 12,000 BC to 500BC. Why does everyone never talk or mentions ancient China. They where very advanced at one point but then every thing seemed to collapsed and eventually started back up all over again. Don’t forget the fact that all the oceans where 400 feet lower back then. Many people traveled all over by foot from continent to continent more than by boat.
@rmp9849 2 yıl önce
Four years later...but so glad I found this or TRshow recommended it to me, anyway I rarely enjoy these lectures but this one had me from the start!! I would pay to hear this guy talk! Thank you sir!!
@rossr6616 3 yıl önce
This causes me to wonder about the state of forests of the time, as they were both the primary source of fuel for processing metals, as well as building materials for both military and civilian purposes. With drought, tree growth and replacement would have slowed greatly, impacting all facets of life and economy and trade.
@Flash-Strike 3 yıl önce
Watching this you see they erased the history and concluded another one SUCH a HOAX.. when you study you see they lie nd lie.. SAD
@nathanhughes8562 3 yıl önce
But silting of the Anatolian coast didnt occur until roman times from erosion.
@jfitt5817 3 yıl önce
Look into the ancient tree's that were much taller and wider (devils tower) was believed to be a large tree before it was cut down.
@plainkady 3 yıl önce
This is what will happen to the earth if they continue with moving all to electricity because it comes from burning biofuel = trees.
@janelee5993 3 yıl önce
I've been a proud Bronze Age nerd since the age of about 6. This was a good take on a period that to some extent is being (rightly) re-interpreted in the light of new science, especially genetics.
@kalvinsampson2043 3 yıl önce
Hence the name giving " COLON- nizers
@dangauldin6891 3 yıl önce
I have zero direct education in history and archaeology but its my passion to read about it. This was a very good presentation and definitely food for thought. Thanks!
@SG-bz9fq 2 yıl önce
Dr H Klein, why couldn't my history teachers make it as easy as you did to understand this period? 10/10
@mikesnyder1788 6 yıl önce
Excellent historical presentation! This is why I have always loved the story of history! Research backed by evidence and continued speculation. Well done!
@tonyfanfarone 3 yıl önce
Very interesting subject and a fantastic lecture by a gifted educator. Thanks.
@dalfes 2 yıl önce
Great lecture! I learned a lot. Thank you.
@lostinmokum 3 yıl önce
Great lecture with a wonderful balance of sources and argumentation. The Bodrum Museum is now on the list of must visits.
@donnaspear8311 2 yıl önce
This is brilliant. I've subscribed. You're a gifted teacher. Thank you for putting the pieces together.
@ddpp1420 2 yıl önce
Confusion only teaches confusion and the path to truth is lost
@basicdesign1 2 yıl önce
Very well informed, supported, coherent, and to top it all Mr Cline is very pleasant to listen to. Plus the topic is o so topical for these days - and no way we'll hear of it from the mainstream. Thanks very much for these informations and for the quality of the service indeed.
@holiday07 3 yıl önce
I always regretted that the Bronze age was skipped entirely in my world history class. It was mentioned for about 3 seconds and then suddenly jumped to the golden ages of ancient Greek and Rome. I thought that era was just as interesting as the renaissance period.
@heffalumptarkin1384 3 yıl önce
Many ages got rushed so fast in my old school in Germany. The second world war was the biggest and looongest topic. So long, that nobody was anymore interested in my class in that. I couldn't care less now about all the nazi things. That happens when you force the students to read and read and learn and learn for so long about one topic. I could puke about the history lessons.
@bruzote 3 yıl önce
More people would learn about the Bronze Age if milestone wedding anniversaries (10, 25,50,75) had gifts tied to various ages. Digital age would be the last one, so whatever is current is good for a gift.
@tereseshaw7650 3 yıl önce
The teachers don't know anything about it. They could make it relatable by watching the movie "Troy." And say, THESE people. We're talking about these people." There are other things from popular culture. Knowing Bible stories is essential. All sorts of exotic peoples and cultures that lived in the Bronze Age
@winechocolate 3 yıl önce
Love it, I now have a clear view of the history of these incredible civilizations. The history also shows how fragile civilizations are to climate change and how easy they can fail and disappear into the archeological treasure chest.
@JoeBowman35 3 yıl önce
I’ve had this on my watch list for a long time. It was even better than I had hoped it would be.
@christopherbarber9351 2 yıl önce
Great lecture, very informative!
@nandomericoni4457 2 yıl önce
I love how this Professors doesn't refrain from pointing out when he thinks we don't have good answers. I always felt that we humans are way too much in love with the feeling of "having understood", and because of this, when a hypothesis starts looking good, we rush to cut the remaining corners to force them to fit, in order to be able to think that we got it, that now we know. And the worst part is that we teach those conclusions in school as if they were ascertained facts instead of having the humility to say for example _"... at the best of our current knowledge we believe that_ [atoms are the indivisible building block of matter] [or replace with any of the many scientific certainties that miserably fell later] _but we are not sure because the current evidence is not enough to be sure_". If we taught like this in school, fewer kids would lose interest or respect for science.
@ronaldreagan5535 2 yıl önce
I’ve read 3 history books on the subject with much interest given the mystery of who were these violent ‘sea people’ who wreaked so much havoc in the Mediterranean world, with their powerful iron weapons. Archaeologists are now zeroing in on ancient Italians from places as Sardinia. To be fair, the attacks were not exclusively caused by these sea raiders, as others in the region jumped on the bandwagon and also attacked their neighbors. Ultimately though, these ‘sea people’ started this violent descent into chaos.
@jameseaton905 3 yıl önce
Amazing, thoughtful presentation. As a student of ancient near eastern civilizations, this brings things together for me in a cogent and careful way that I really appreciated.
@bosse641 3 yıl önce
So interesting with ancient history. I'm sure we would be blown away if knew all that has happened on this earth.
@esoterrorismsuxx9152 3 yıl önce
Shepherds Chapel. Pastor Arnold Murray. Chek' it.
@sarahs7751 3 yıl önce
Daniel Willett 🙏🏼 I just looked him up and watching now.
@marutomarijuanis3597 3 yıl önce
really what i think is that if we knew what happened in a short period of time (quick knowledge) we would have a lot of misunderstaning, new cults (like flatearthers etc. ) wars ,religious things (even if we knew that religion is a fantasy ) and other things like that ....you catch the point ..and most of all we would not hear the truth before it would appear on every platform from every big leader...we would consider that another propaganda .
@St.Linguini_of_Pesto 2 yıl önce
Yes, like who shot Kennedy, Lincoln & J.R. Their killers still run free, people! It's a dangerous world we live in.
@abdulaleem9207 2 yıl önce
@junedewar3551 3 yıl önce
Excellent Symposium! What is extremely interesting to me is the topic of disease for it was at that time the story of the Exodus began when the Egyptian first born sons according to scripture died of disease or plague as foretold to Pharaoh by Moses as it was about to come upon Egyptian dynasty. Moses apparently was the adopted son of Hatshepsut. Looking forward to viewing 'The Exodus' commentary.
@fadvis 2 yıl önce
Muy buen libro, yo lo tengo en español, lástima que el video no tenga la opción de traducir al español. Porque no están activados los subtítulos.
@gothikia 3 yıl önce
This was a wonderful lecture. Very much enjoyed it.
@tombrunila2695 3 yıl önce
An interesting and informative lecture. Thank you very much.
@williamfitzpatrick6369 4 yıl önce
What a great speaker. Good voice & knows his material. I was never interested in archaeology or anthropology but this was captivating.
@briandesormeau2643 3 yıl önce
I took a Classics degree, a Bachelor of Arts and I think that if Dr. Cline had been my advisor, I would have hung in there and gone for the doctorate. That. Was. Brilliant!
@josephcollins6033 3 yıl önce
What a pleasant lecturer. All professors should watch and listen.
@anthonysheffield5717 2 yıl önce
It would be interesting to hear what effect the Santorini explosion and tsunami had on Minoan and other civilisations in the area and could have been the initial trigger for the demise.
@alexandroslysais1798 Yıl önce
I have long wondered this as well.
@Mike-dk7wj 3 yıl önce
What an excellent lucid and enjoyable lecture.
@akesha4138 3 yıl önce
Very good presentation, well thought out, multi-dynamic disaster sequences.
@rb3872 2 yıl önce
This topic is under so much scrutiny and change as of late. I've heard so many hypothesis' now saying the drought covered the whole of Europe causing the proto-Italic peoples (Latins, Etruscans) downward by proto-Celtic peoples, in turn pushing peoples already living in Italy and its islands away. There is this tremendous interesting period of the end of the Roman Republic that grabs my attention everytime, but the Bronze Age collapse is a great second. Edit: and while I was posting this, the end of vid Q&A session with the audience denotes this hypothesis.
@christophermills9289 3 yıl önce
This is what I miss about college sometimes. Listening to a history professor who loves his or her subject.
@LithiumFusion1 3 yıl önce
Welcome to the good part of TRshow :D
@christophermills9289 3 yıl önce
@@LithiumFusion1 I know right. If only more people would watch stuff like this rather than 'reality' TV we would be a more advanced species. lol
@BarNuun 3 yıl önce
He is a fine lecturer, but what he says is an opinion set, hardly more than 140 years old. To pass his course, indeed all of this opinion must be followed... or you will fail the course. But his thoughts are countered by many other enquiring people today. And the truth? The pharaoh he calls 'Rameses III, in 1177 BC', is really a much later famous monarch called Apries by Greek authors and Khophra by a Hebrew prophet. And he was alive and well in the lifetimes of Jeremiah, Plato, Thales of Miletes and Zedekiah, the last king of Judah. This pharaoh famously sailed his fleet to Cyprus, defeated the Cypriot fleet and then conquered the island itself. He used the captured booty to build some nice monuments back home in Egypt. After that, the entire eastern Mediterranean region was ravaged by the Babylonian tide.
@DimBeam1 3 yıl önce
@@jkeister I was going to skip this video until I read your comment. * Presses Play *
@Anna-tj7mp 3 yıl önce
@@christophermills9289 haha good comment. This stuff does not just keep me sane, it gives me joy in lockdown.
@SportFundMedved 2 yıl önce
It’s been a pleasure to listen to this excellent lecture while on a hike in Western Siberia! Greetings from Russia!
@twojacksandanace3847 3 yıl önce
His theories are pretty on point, what we know now is that there was a massive environmental crisis in the Mediterranean along with massive earth quakes and other tectonic activity all over the bronze age empires, especially Greece, Thera is an unfortunate example of that. Now the bronze age empires like he said were all reliant upon one another via trade, they of course needed bronze and without bronze well... So to make bronze you need 9 parts copper and 1 part tin, copper was easy to come by in these empires although it could be very hard to mine, Cyprus had a massive copper supply that was easy to mine so you can see why it was so wealthy and important, not only is it just a really key trading location but it has one of the two things that everyone needed in abundance and it was in the middle of all the people who needed it so they were doing really swell. Now tin is the problem in this equation, you only needed a little bit of tin compared to the amount of copper needed for bronze but tin was and still is very rare and unlike copper was also not evenly spread around, the Hittites had a small mine but that wasn't nearly enough and the other tin mines were in Afghanistan, Spain and Cornwall, England, the Afghanistan mine was from what i understand the largest known supply of tin and believe it or not people did make the trips to these places to get tin, now if they were making the trip starting in the Bronze age empires, at the far away mines or were middle men i don't know but i bet it was just about anyone who could make the trip and had the balls to go on such a perilous journey, although there could have been middle points where the tin was brought from the mines that was an easier trip for the Bronze age empires, but that's just me thinking, i haven't heard of anything like that, i'm juts regurgitating what iv'e seen and my own theories mixed in. So back to it, the Bronze age empires were dealing with a massive environmental crisis so famine, drought leading to civil wars and unrest, there is evidence of my cities being destroyed or abandoned before the Sea Peoples even show up, we see this especially in the Mycenaean Civilization where there is a lot of archeological evidence of Mycenaean cities whose population overthrow their ruling class and the Mycenaean palaces which the rulers and ruling class ruled from being destroyed due to the unrest caused by the famine, drought and environmental disasters. Now like i said before everyone is reliant on each other through trade so that everyone can get the tin and copper they need to make Bronze so that they don't collapse and loose the ability to manufacture their at the time advanced technologies and with all these disasters trade took several big hits and each problem just multiplies and becomes worse and worse. The Sea Peoples should have been a manageable threat for the Bronze age civilization if things were still business as usually, but it wasn't business as usual, these empires were in the middle of dealing with 4 separate crisis and were not doing well and when the Sea Peoples show up having also fled from their lands due to the famine, drought and disasters they find the whole region in collapse, the cities are vulnerable, the empires are weak and ravaged so it was easy for them to end the Mycenaean's, Hittites, and Assyrians, Cyprus and others while Egypt and Babylonia crawl out of the inferno alive but fucked up, the Babylonians cutesy of being far away from the Sea Peoples but i'm sure they still had to deal with other invasions and migrations along with all the other issues that everyone else had. Finally Egypt, the only one to throwback the Sea People and not be slam dunked into oblivion, probably because Egypt was attacked the last and the least by the Sea Peoples not to mention Egypt was used to being isolated and independent so they still had some food and water from the Nile and had the least amount of tectonic activity so the Egyptian Pharaohs were prepared for the invasions and not as damaged so although it took their entire army they came out on top. Now just because the survivors were well alive, doesn't mean they were going to go back to business as usual and they could still maintain their previous strength, this was a death blow to the surviving civilizations, their days were numbered and they were shadows of them selves now, there was no more interconnected trade, almost everyone else was gone so their civilization went into decline and their empires either shrank or eventually fell after the exhaustion. It took over 300 years for new civilizations to emerge and for the technological and knowledge damage to come close to how things were before and these news powers eventually finished off the only one who had survived both the storm and the aftermath, Egypt, Cyrus and thus the Persians and Alexander and the Greeks would make the whole region their playground for the foreseeable future until Rome came knocking. Also i didn't include this above but chariots were the center of the bronze age armies and loosing one was like the US loosing a B2 bomber or an aircraft carrier, they were very expensive to make and train and breed the horses along with crewing it with skilled soldiers and unfortunately the Sea Peoples had a very unique and mobile form of foot warfare that allowed them to be very good at destroying chariots and the bronze age armies despite their attempts to adapt such as more than doubling their battle formations withe more spear men and foot soldiers they were still outflanked and crushed by the quick and mobile sea peoples, making your formations longer doesn't do much but make it take a little longer for the enemy to get around and behind you if have shit for mobility and movement coordination.
@sharonpritchettrichards2426 2 yıl önce
Best explanation of Bronze Age collapse I've heard presented all in one place. Thanks.
@BiboDora 2 yıl önce
I enjoyed every minute of this lectuer.. the more you know the more you don't.. never thought I will have some real quality time on TRshow.. thanks sir.
@NoirFan01 3 yıl önce
I watched this informative lecture two years ago. But, TRshow algorithms recommended I watch it again. It is worth the second viewing.
@briannorthcutt1268 3 yıl önce
I'll uh jj
@Zoofactory 3 yıl önce
I’ll just bet your right. Think of what life would be like if we had access to this stuff as kids on a Friday night.
@Haydenthemaker1000 3 yıl önce
I'm here too!
@grantshearer5615 3 yıl önce
@Loraine680 3 yıl önce
Fake! Those people with families were refugees of the invasions of Sea Peoples. Also the depictions (of those invasion wars) depicts (and not only in Egypt) all kind of people which were all involved in these wars and migrations, are NOT all the infamous Sea Peoples, but ALL peoples involved in these wars, the autochton victims, plus the invaders). Many fake info (and all based on BS and infantile speculations) is today being purposely spread allover Media concerning the Sea Peoples, but the real informations, based on real proof (also thoroughly documented by the greatest history investigator of all times, Dinu Costel Linta aka "DCL" or "LCD") exists allready, about WHO were the Sea Peoples, documented also by the Egyptian tablets (as well as the Babylonian ones), and even by this very guy in this clip, but when he was younger, sane and incoruptibile, in another clip (See "The Colaps of the Bronze Age Civilisation" documentary on youtube, about the "Sea People", the perpetual killers of the human race, who they are/were: trshow.info/watch/MjuZjHpxUWQ/video.html ), long before he was hansomly paid by the Sea Peoples of today (who owes the Media, the banks etc.) to divert the atention from them (the descendents of the Sea Peoples), to other cheap fairytales for weak minds (as a sane person sees through it right away), as the comediant type speculations in this clip shows.
@chadebrownnyc 6 yıl önce
Terrific presentation! Eloquent speaker, informative slides, fascinating topics that are relevant to what might lie ahead. I plan to watch it again. Thank you! Good for novices and experts both I believe.
@AdamvsMaximvs 2 yıl önce
A very well presented lecture. Always nice to see a speaker than can weave in and out of the presentation materials like that
@jacksingh5367 11 aylar önce
a well-reasoned example of how complex interdependent civilisations are vulnerable to chain reactions from local problems becoming magnified into global game-changers.
@dr.christopherfaria6688 2 yıl önce
Interesting. Having not read your book, I would think the time period for collapse in the ancient world was communication dependent; i.e., ships, trade caravans, etc. But now that time period of communication is virtually instantaneous. So the domino effect of a collapse today... do you write or lecture about this factor?
@laratiara1 2 yıl önce
Finally someone who understands, that things don't happen as a singularity. Everything is connected somehow. You really are a professional professor. Keep up the good work and thank you for explaining. I knew there was more to it than meets the eye.
@captainjj7184 2 yıl önce
Can't believe I be chillin on this video while eating and working and this is a dang class lecture lol! Love this professor and the video production overall, thanks for sharing!
@wmpmacm 3 yıl önce
Well researched and explained. I learned a lot. Good teacher.😊
@vincentgroudeniutes1655 2 yıl önce
this guy is stunning I wish I had such professors at my time...
@djr1943 2 yıl önce
Very well done. Thank you!
@mitchellminer9597 2 yıl önce
Transport by sea was probably pretty low cost. The ships were wind-driven, and the sailors were maybe working for food (there was no money). The ships themselves may have cost less than comparable ships today, being hand-built from trees. Shipping may have been more vital than we think - grain from Egypt may have fed a lot of people. So if drought occurred, as the man says, it may have been caused by, or been accompanied by, changes in wind patterns. If those changes affected trade winds, the shipping network may have collapsed.
@chrismount8793 5 aylar önce
These are thugs. They stole those boats.
@ThisisAfrican42 Aylar önce
Its impossible the weather caused the fall of the bronze age
@danroche8014 3 yıl önce
Fantastic lecture - thank you!
@gordonmcinnes8328 3 yıl önce
I wonder if the prevelence of tin from the Cornwall area was greater due to the Atlantic coastal trade route? The coastal sea route takes you down the French coast, to North Africa/Southern Spain and then you could go along Morocco/Libya to Egypt. Most of this would be by sea so would be viable I think. Certainly if they had baltic amber it sounds to me a much easier route.
@dukadarodear2176 3 yıl önce
When I was at school (60's) History was taught as elements on a Line - battle dates, death of kings etc. Later it was looked upon as elements within a Square. Now, and especially with this excellent lecturer, it is a Cube full of moving, interacting elements.
@oracleatdeptford2970 3 yıl önce
Very well conceptualized.
@ancamg 3 yıl önce
I was in school in the 70s-80s (SE Europe) and I did Ancient history in grade 5 and 9 (high school), medieval history grade 6 and 10, modern history grade 7 and 11, and. national history (from ancient times to modern) in grade 8 and 12. So we learned about Egyptians and their ancient kingdoms, Phoenicians, Persia, Greece, Roman empire and others around. My son, in Canada in the 2010s, did almost nothing at history, except from the 1812 war.
@lordsharshabeel 3 yıl önce
Machine learn algorithms will take it to the hypercube and beyond.
@notimportant8736 3 yıl önce
I once had a prof who taught modern history. He taught it n reverse, so our 20th century were so much easier to understand when I was shown how western culture in the 19th undermined near and middle eastern culture. Not to mention the far east. Which shows so much about even our lives to this day.
@CaptainJackSparrow110 3 yıl önce
It's better to learn history as a timeline. One needs to know the basic facts of when and where before the discussion of the why can be had. It also takes too long to have the discussion about the debate of why something happened because there is rarely a consensus about the why. Add discussion of the why for each event and you would rarely get beyond a few events during a semester. The why needs to be confined to advanced courses or books if you want to explore a particular event.
@bystroffc 3 yıl önce
Is there an intrinsic rate of collapse? Is anything known about where population was before system collapse and after? Wonderful and entertaining talk.
@deniztuzu1 2 yıl önce
I don't understand how anyone can dislike this amazing video!!!
@jesalasbahamon 2 yıl önce
Excellent conference! Impressive the last two slides showing how similar it is the situation nowadays and 33 centuries ago!!
@marcdemell5976 2 yıl önce
Matthew 24:22, Halleluyah.
@nullc0ntext 3 yıl önce
Well now I feel adequately preparared for the way we all know 2020 is headed. Fascinating presentation. Great stuff.
@gregoryphillips2939 19 gün önce
Starting about 400,000 years ago, the focus of volcanic activity shifted to where it has been since then, the center of the present-day caldera. The most characteristic type of activity over the last 400.000 years has been the cyclic construction of shield volcanoes interrupted by large explosive and destructive events like the Minoan eruption about 3600 years ago. In detail, the volcanic evolution of Santorini can be divided into six main stages (Druitt and others, 1989): Akrotiri Volcanoes (approx. 2 mio - 600,000 years ago) Cinder cones of the Akrotiri peninsula (around 600 - 300 ka) Peristeria Volcano (530 - 300 ka) Products of the first eruptive cycle (360-180 ka) Products of the second eruptive cycle (180 ka - 1613 BC) Kameni shield (1613 BC - present)
@antonius9098 5 yıl önce
Enjoyable lecture, congratulations! Some of the most ancient castles from the Bronze Age and earlier in Sardinia are burried under mud with seashells. Were Shardana also wiped away from a tsunami on Sardinian lowlands?
@NoisyOne2 2 yıl önce
Around 38 minutes in, he mentions a woman sheltering in a doorframe during an earthquake. If you know to do that, it is because you're part of a group that has seen a lot of earthquakes. That's not an intuitive move. In other words, this is not evidence of _an_ earthquake. It is evidence of many earthquakes.
@clintonstephens273 2 yıl önce
Good point
@gigajohn1 2 yıl önce
They assume she was sheltering, she could have been rushing either inside or outside and got struck, but it also means her body was not buried, instead was left where it fell, which on its own indicates the city was abandoned immediately, but in that case I would expect the body to have been dragged and scattered by scavengers (creatures), so I don't buy what they are saying at all based on the interpretation of that body alone.
@zuzannatasarz3756 2 yıl önce
@@gigajohn1 If the body was buried under a lot of debris, it's possible that scavengers weren't able to get to it.
@RichardsNickname 2 yıl önce
@@gigajohn1 no it doesn't mean that her body wasn't burried. The fact they found the body at all is proof scavengers couldn't get to her. It's not prove the place was immediately abandoned. I think its more likely that nobody found her in the rubble and just like with the dinosaurs, the soil became her tomb
@gigajohn1 2 yıl önce
@@RichardsNickname People reuse stones, any pile of ruble would have been taken eventually to build walls or other structures elsewhere, exposing the remains, unless the place was abandoned and forgotten.
@crocustorrent5093 3 yıl önce
My high respects to Prof Eric Cline 🙏👍
@aleksandars9254 3 yıl önce
Thank you Mr. Cline, this was amazing.
@selwyn-lloydmcpherson2814 3 yıl önce
I came to TRshow to watch cat videos and seventy minutes later. . . Dr. Cline, you are a great lecturer, that was really fun, thank you!
@theodoret4556 2 yıl önce
its a lie.. in Transilvania tere are artefacts that date 6000 bc .. propaganda
@NickNicometi 2 yıl önce
Metal rock guitar lessons and now im watching THIS! What happened?! 😳
@aiurea1 2 yıl önce
@@theodoret4556 why aren't they a major subject? Maybe because they are not decifired? Maybe they are
@philipcohen979 2 yıl önce
@granite tiger oo
@beckynelson6786 2 yıl önce
Really enjoyed this lecture!Thanks.
@andrewlane4766 4 yıl önce
The great lesson of history is that its never THAT simple. As our society increasingly craves simple answers that might be the most important lesson to be learned.
@ossiedunstan4419 3 yıl önce
the great lesson here is the middle east is not humanities cradle of civilization , its the cradle of in humane beliefs and acts of genocide , nothing about the middle east or Mediterranean are civilized.
@longandshort6639 3 yıl önce
Nah, it’s simple because our brains are too feeble
@longandshort6639 3 yıl önce
Ossie Dunstan errr - a sweeping generalisation
@Diamond-Essence 3 yıl önce
@@ossiedunstan4419 I think your getting your geography mixed up it's Europe your talking about.
@danielavasile344 3 yıl önce
Tony Wilson well said.
@lalitacruz737 2 yıl önce
Such a great lecturer !
@dashinvaine 3 yıl önce
The Aegean list is very interesting. Could it record a punitive military campaign rather than a friendly visit? I notice the cartouches with the place names all have a figure of a bound captive above them.
@zeratulcleaver4097 2 yıl önce
This guy is both a great scholar and a great stand-up comedian. Great lecture.
@zeratulcleaver4097 2 yıl önce
@@dp6003 did you mean to type rubbish?
@ddpp1420 2 yıl önce
@@zeratulcleaver4097 Great scholar means you know what your talking about He doesn’t So obviously to your question Did you mean to type great scholar and comedian?
@zeratulcleaver4097 2 yıl önce
@@ddpp1420 I was genuinely wondering if you were trying to type rubbish or not. Do you have a better source I could listen to/read? I like this era in history.
@ddpp1420 2 yıl önce
@@zeratulcleaver4097 I’m afraid you will have to wait for my expedition hopefully next year and for me to finish my book before I am on the air explaining the truth to this History but you are certainly a kindred spirit for your love of this History
@zeratulcleaver4097 2 yıl önce
@@ddpp1420 Can you give me your name so I can read your book when it releases? You can private message me if you want.
@jimmybirtles3800 2 yıl önce
Why in heavens name did l not have this man as a history teacher He is brilliant.
@mikeangel1685 2 yıl önce
For me as a not-native-speaker it is quite easy understandable. Very good!
@abmbarry 5 yıl önce
Brilliant lecture and a wonderful view of a parallel between a globalized world system and what is taking place today. I have shared this link with a number of my friends. ... Thank you Dr. Eric Cline. Barry Manclark Australia
@Gorboduc 3 yıl önce
The fact that this has five million views gives me a smallish amount of hope.
@usefulidiots3970 3 yıl önce
I dont. I have been a history student my whole life, and I was a psychology major in college. Our liberal arts colleges can not even teach semi accurate twentieth century history. Now we have marauding young zombies screaming about a system that they have no actual knowledge of, and worshiping evil, racist, sociopaths like marx, Trotsky, and Lenin. If we dont stomp it out soon, we will see our collapse also.
@randacnam7321 2 yıl önce
@@usefulidiots3970 We also have the complicating factor of critical infrastructure that is capable of instantaneous widespread failure. At least failure propagation back then took months or years. Today, it can take seconds.
@billsmith7673 2 yıl önce
@@usefulidiots3970 AMEN!!!
@patshelby9285 2 yıl önce
@@usefulidiots3970 Wow, sociopathic fissures are closing fast.
@nosuchthing8 2 yıl önce
Its also good to sleep to
@gerardtrigo380 3 yıl önce
An excellent example of how college should work and did work in my day. Constantly taking you in areas away from your safe zone and challenging you with different ideas.
@svennielsen633 2 yıl önce
Still the most entertaining lecture ever made.
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