The Russian missile that landed on Polish territory after being hit by a Ukraine missile had the WW1 Axis vs Allies vibe to it. All this just happened a month ago. (November, 2022)

Lol me me me me me me you’re all unbearable

You forgot about Fascist Trump to your south. That was scary for us Americas too.

@Ryan Gibson the main reason for the shiver down my spines.

May you find peace in this lifetime.

@torressr3 Thank you. May we all find peace, understanding, love and fulfillment. I hope you have found yours.

God bless you too, sir.

But I am so angry at those that made them do it 🙏🏾

courage or a death wish.

Same here...I don't know why ive never felt the interest in WW1 ...

@kluaf oz a lot of that is because of mass media. Look at all the camera footage of the WWII compared to that of WWI. Next most people over the age of 40 (as of 2023) probably knew a relative that fought in WWII. Then you had all those TV shows on the History and Discovery channel like Battle: 360, GI Diaries, Wings Over Europe, and even TV shows like Bah Bah Black Sheep, Hogan's Heroes, Sgt, Bilko, McHale's Navy and their British and Australian counterparts. You also have all the countless WWII movies that our grandfathers and fathers watched and we watched too because of them. You have all the archived interviews of all the WWII heroes. Now compare all that media with the media of WWI and that is your difference maker. WWII is also portrayed as a righteous war, a war of truly good vs. evil whereas, and the narrator mentioned it, WWI is viewed as a war of useless slaughter.

Its to the point where I can't watch documentaries on the Battle of the Somme . When Pals brigades were killed , villages in Britain lost their male youth . This is why there were very strong peace movements in Britain during the inter war years as explained in this Documentary . .

Killed 2 weeks before the Armistice (which was the 11th of November 1918) IN RUSSIA ? But Russia had already given up WW1 signing a peace treaty with Germany in MARCH 1918. So, your comment doesn’t ring true. Sorry.

​@Syd McCreathbritain, america and others sent soldiers to russia in 1918 to fight in the civil war there.

My grandfather (my father's father) was an airplane mechanic for the US Army Air Corps in France and my great grandfather (my mother's mother's father) was in the Canadian infantry. The latter was around 35 years old at the time and was old enough he didn't have to go but he volunteered anyway and joined the Canadian army; he later said that was the worst mistake he ever made.

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My Pops fought in Belleau Wood, God bless your Grampa.

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Our extended family lost two members, full blooded Cherokee Native Americans, first cousins to one another, but our older family members say they were like two brothers growing up. They joined the Corps together, went through boot camp together, traveled to Europe together as part of the American Expeditionary Forces and lost their lives on 26 September and 27 September 1918 to German gas attacks. May they all Rest In Peace for their selfless sacrifices and senseless slaughter that ultimately didn’t accomplish a d@#% thing.

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Because it was pointless how many men died on the front and it’s horrific

It's better to bring children and let them see and play and learn than keep them away and learn nothing.

Little Churchill’s?

Yes, well said. I often ask parents to remove their children from the many, very moving, war monuments in Hyde Park square, and thankfully they do..

Most interesting documentation.

His documentary on Nixon is a masterpiece

@Julian Ciaha Consulting I agree, his documentary on Nixon was quite interesting.

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I know really theatrical pulls u in and appreciate the past.

Unfortunately, country fighting country is more of a constant than peace. I'm 70 and live in the US, and this country is more often than not involved in military bloodshed someplace. Besides the various political reasons, it also helps continue the Military Industrial Complex, there's easy money to be made in war.

@shop shop, I must apologize, I should not judge, I have to practice true tolerance as granted in "The Constitution" and as a "Christian". GOD Bless and Let's Go Brandon

@Kevin Kelleher Your last three words speak volumes, so sad. Your conclusions---1. wrong 2. Wrong, high draft number kept me from going to jail. 2b. Never. I felt sorry for those who wasted such an important time in their life, and I felt/feel a mix of rage and pity for those, including friends, who returned home in a box or damaged fighting in a stupid war, 2c, none of the wars from Vietnam onwards had anything to do with this country's freedom. BTW bright boy, females didn't have to register for the draft. And weren't allowed in combat positions. If you want to fight for freedom and you are of age, go to Ukraine. After a lifetime of being against our wars, here's one where the outcome really matters. The choice is clear, either a dictator or a liberal democracy.

Very sad, so sorry for him.

Life was something very different. My thanks to your grandfather, and I hope he will be remembered for his bravery, not for the consequences of his valor 🙏

So sorry about your grandpa 😞.

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Your dad and uncle fought Biden and Harris?

They must have kept fighting well after the war ended then lol.

@Scotty m could the fella be talking about the horror he saw maybe don't think war ends on a whistle for soldiers 🤔

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The French Playing with Veterans...for political points He called it....

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My grandfather also fought there. My main memory is that he hated Churchill, as did most Scots at that tme. The subsequent lionization of Churchill surprised me, although it mainly took place in the media.

My grandfather fought at Ypres and the Somme , was finally mustard gassed 3 weeks before armistice. I adored him , I knew him 50 years post his war but I still know every word to all the WW1 song, “ mademoiselle from Armentiers “ and “it’s a long way from Tipperary “. He didn’t talked about the war but it permitted his whole life and his children’s and grandchildren’s lives. My own children know those songs through me singing them. I don’t think enough is known about the generational effects of something so life children.

@David W. Robertson Churchill was loathed in our family too, remember his grip over politics lasted from the Boer war , through WW1 , the interwar years with his treachery of shooting strikers , through the Second World War. It was no wonder the British working class loathed the entitled aristocratic bully who did so much damage. Though probably uniquely effective in WW2 from making so many previous costly mistakes.

The profiteering group of elder men* "Order out of Chaos" "Divide & Conquer" Problem Reaction Solution Cause of most wars Greed , Power the love of Money

Ya ur right we should probably have 60 year old troops that would work out well.

@Brad Bufton you're a special kind of silly

Regrettably if a country does not keep a viable military they end up like Palestine, or fighting for their very survival as is Ukraine right now

@Jim FugeUkraine military was always disproportionately large and well equipped for its economy. It’s just it’s economy wasn’t very large. It now probably has the worlds second best military

He was let down by planners who's blood would never be shed.

​​​@Robert Dore as is the nature of all wars

That’s not possible. Maybe your grandad fought in WW2, but not WW1. WW1 was over 100 years ago

My grandpa served in France during the Great War. He was born in 1895.

​@Macy Sondheimmy Grandma was born in 1886, so she was 14 in 1900 & 28 with a daughter in 1914, other grandparents were also born in the 19th century! And I do still have all my 'marbles'!

@Proud American i totally agree. I am against most wars started by America but if i hadn't both my legs amputated when i was 19 i would definitely be their for the honorable wars with purpuse.

@Anders ᛖᛚᛁᚨᛋᛖᚾ WWI wasn't started by the US.

@Eric Sierra-Franco i never said it was. You didn't read his answer which he deleted

Maybe they can get a medal from King Charles Saxe-Coburg-Gotha😂

Trust me, it's quite assailable. But you have to break out of the paradigm of Western capitalist hegemony to do it. Most people find this task impossible or confounding.

Makes me wonder what he said.

I am a combat veteran as well. I do believe we should heed what Ike said about the military complex, but I also believe in what Teddy Roosevelt said "speak softly and carry a big stick". He was a war veteran himself and lost 2 sons, one in WWI and one in WWII. Sometimes we can talk till we are blue in the face yet bad men will still do bad things. WWI and WWII, and even Korea, taught the US a lesson to never get caught with our pants down.

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Eh... I'd just rather see MUCH LESS of this narrator & much more of the heroes & historic figures of the era.

I agree

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@Ryan M. A there are no hero's in War

so does learning to write and read properly to express ones ideas

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Over three hundred millions of Americans remain utterly complacent and allowing of their own half a TRILLION dollars spent every twelve months for military to involve ourselves in other countries' business. Whether asked to or not. That amount comes to more than the next five countries combined spend on their military for every possible reason we think it necessary. Instead, they use a portion of that to provide healthcare, education, internal structure, all manner of goods and services for everyone in their countries, to benefit the entire country and we have inadequate lower grades education , unreachable higher education , unaffordable housing including ever more homelessness countrywide, ETC with no positive changes in sight for the majority

@Doree Kaplan you're not wrong and both sides of the political Isle have been padding their own pay roles

Yes my friend, am from uk but them guys spilt there guts and we’re as brave as anyone.

When I first heard of the musical "Oh what a lovely war" I was horrified at the callousness of it. But when I saw the film of it I could understand and at the end when the men went over the top for the last time and fell in the mud there was water in my eyes as they slowly turned into mud and then into red poppies on green grass. Why should he want to talk about it ?

@20chocsaday I get the impression he could only have ever talked about it to people who were there and had also survived.

Individual Liberty.

Watch the new “All Quiet on the Western Front” whew… what a movie !!!

My husband's grandfather speaks about it like it was a downright party going on in Germany. And he was fighting there and then was military police for a few years...but his other grandfather was in the pacific and didn't say anything but that it wasn't fun.

May I disagree? The British Army infantry losses in Normandy were so high they occasionally exceeded those of the Russians on the eastern front. My father survived the Battle of the Orne, in which two of out three of his companies were destroyed in a panzer counterattack after they crossed back over the river. His company survived - only because they dug in and fought them off with anti-tank guns.

so much for never again it seems wars never stop do they? just put on the news .it sickens me greatly how anyone can pick up a rifle to kill another human unless in total self defense and one has no choice /

Thank the BBC

Try hemp cream, helps my arthritic knee no end.

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Pain is no fun. Heat helps.

@Speckled Hen I’m very suspicious of heat after burning the back of my knee with a wheat bag. I have lower sensation in my skin so didn’t notice it for a while either.

@Kammie-If you can enjoy such a documentary to that level of intensity, then you have strength within you. Do not ignore that strength. You will be fine, my friend.

Had a neighbor that join the army when he was 12 for world war I he also served world war II the Korean war and Vietnam and retired after that

Agreed. A superb BBC documentary.

Yes with the exception of the last one. I have visited all the others. The scale of the missing is unbelievable. The Menin gate at 8 each evening is so very poignant.

Thank you for clarifying that ! You're right.

Their second to none. I only wish that I could get the importance of what the narrator was leading up too. It would save me from going back to catch ... What did he just say! 😳🤣

This was made by the BBC

I'm a combat veteran of Iraq and I do the same thing.

@Joshua Sill Respect to you for serving in what I imagine were extremely difficult circumstances. Fighting against insurgents embedded within a civilian population must be a f^^king nightmare man. Thank you for doing what you did anyway, putting your life on the line to make the world a better place is admirable and no words can describe the gratitude you deserve for it.

I do to, but publishing is not creating. The creators deserve the credit for it's content. In this case, this Timeline docu-video is based on Prof Reynold's 2013 book and was produced by ClearStory and premiered on BBC2, as noted by another commenter on this thread.

I can relate to that and for you. My father,my uncle and grampa canadian vets whent to 1st and 2 nd ww And never talk about it. Today and for the past few years i have been thinking they should have gpne tp some kind of therapie ( so tabou and miss information during those years.😢 ❤❤❤ imagin

My dad was in North Africa and mum was in the ATS. My first girlfriends dad was at Remegan. I wish id been more interested when i was a teen. They've all gone now, i'm a bit ashamed of myself. God bless them all. 😢

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Yeah, all Putin had to do was stay put.

@Baahcuse Gamer everyone seems to have forgotten how many people Ukraine have killed in their own countries genocide ..

@Baahcuse Gamer Bismarck's "something silly in the Balkans" has morphed into "something silly in the Ukraine". Of course, Bismarck's quote is in reference to the age-old "contested sphere of influence", and big power ambitions. At the time it was the Balkans. Today it is the Black Sea/Ukraine, or simply "shifted east Balkans"-Bismarkian logic. Of course the Ottoman Empire was not Europe's *only* "sick man" at the time. The Ottoman Empire was weak, and therefore a favorite on "the European good guys" with their "shopping lists"-mentality. Of course, the "always on the right side of history"-good guys have one main goal: "carving up" weakness. That goal is eternal, always searching for weakness. Of course in the late 19th-century, the Ottomans weren't the only failing empire, desperately trying to hold together their own past accomplishments (previously gained by a mixture of blood and diplomacy). There were two others. Of course Spain was the first weak empire on the American Internationalist's own "no more Monroe Doctrine restrictions"-shopping list of suitable weak empires. The American Century needed divided "weany libruls" to succeed in their quest. Easily explained *empire 101...* Europe's other "sick man" was Austria-Hungary, and Berlin adamantly refused to throw her to the wolves. *Bad bad Berlin* ...the "good guys" had an appetite and came with a vengeance. Dissed girlfriend Russia of course intented to encircle Austria-Hungary, using the "poor people"-argument (aka "Pan Slavism"). And in the respect of "losing favored status" in the good guys' with their eternal games of divide and rule (favoratism): *Russia today.* Not such fun getting encroached upon, as Russia once did to "sick man" Austria-Hungary, and having own security issues ignored by the eternal good guys, right? Not so great having historical spheres of influence carved up by "ICEBREAKER NATO" paving the way to new profitable EU/PNAC markets, eh? Shouting "poor me" in "the game" of default good guys/default bad guys, when own interests to dominate and rule over others, using human lives as "tools" not working out anymore? Why don't your leaders roll out the old "protector of all slavs"-trope again, hmmmm? Suddenly "Russian power" as a "tool" don't suite the "good guys" anymore, and the own Moscow interests *("security issues": remember that term for a while)* get thrown out the back door. Not so much fun anymore when you are "in the shoes" of others, right? What happened to those eternal dreams of access to the Med for your navy and the own projection of power (Mahan)? Today Russia doesn't even fully control the Black Sea anymore, and St Petersburg/Moscow geostategic goals/aims have been thrown back over the last 30 years, step by step, back 200 years to the 18th century when it all started. Not such fun if one isn't on the "default good guy list" anymore... Today, Moscow's dream of "top down influence in Turkey" (Erdogan/Turkish state access to the Med, janking Turkey out of NATO) is being countered by *western economical warfare* on the Turkish state. Watch on while the next bloody "bottom up" orange revolution is being set up by "the good guys" with the cash, creating the next "poor people"-argument for the primed/conditioned masses back home in front of their TVs...impervious in regards to "what happened". They just want the feelgood story, so too bad... *Back to "good ol' days" when Imperialist Russia was still "best fwiends":* Of course during the "good ol' days" of "friendly entente Russia", St. Petersburg/Russia could appease Belgrade in their quest of destabilising their neighboring state (Austria-Hungary) in their violent nationalist quest for Nacertanije and carving up Austria-Hungary. St Petersburg could try to misuse known Serb ambitions for Greater Serbia (openly known since 1906) for the own goal of destabilising the Balkans for own geopolitical goals (access to the Med via the Dardanelles), as the "entente good guys" turned a blind eye. Being a "good guy" herself, Russia could set out to misuse Serbs as a "human wall" in lieu of overly obvious direct state influence, to stop a potential alliance between Berlin and the Ottoman Empire becoming viable. The "usefull tool" aka "Entente partner" St Petersburg had the tacid permission and could appease Belgrade and convert the previous Austrian-Hungarian sphere of influence (Serbia) into a "tool" to create a *security issue* for Austria-Hungary (potential two-front war danger for Vienna/Budapest). *Note how the "good guys" create "poor people"-arguments directed at Moscow today, the same way that the predecessor St. Petersburg created "poor people"-arguments against the object of their desire...Austria-Hungary.* The "regular run" of history is of course that "poor slavs" trapped in an Imperialist Russia (conquered, brutalized and oppressed) is perfectly OK, but Serbs trapped in the Austrian-Hungarian Empire just screams for a "historical adjustment". Go figure... Anyway. What happened to these "party times" when the good guys told you you could do no harm? *Doesn't everybody just love becoming encroached upon and encircled?* Let's ask Russians today how they feel about "encroachment/encirclement". Not so nice, eh? (Google "hypocrisy") *The same "security issues" St Petersburg once created for Austria-Hungary, suddenly don't sound so "cool" anymore, when the shoe is on the other foot.* Biblical history (and 2,000-year old observations re. human nature), unfolding again, right in front of our eyes.

Great as in monumental, not great like a loving family.

‘We’ have no choice. History will repeat itself whether ‘we’ learn from it or not. That is the way the world and Governments work. War after war after war.

We won't, Russia will though.

My thought too. Curtis’s work is fantastic.

Russia needs to do more.