Film Theory: How Pennywise BEAT Pennywise (IT Chapter 2)

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In honor of Halloween, we are returning to our favorite space alien and supernatural creature, Pennywise the clown from IT. Today we are focusing specifically on IT Chapter 2 and the Ritual of Chüd. I've seen people cover a lot of the details in this movie but there is something I think EVERYONE missed! You see, the Losers did not defeat Pennywise. The creepy clown HIMSELF ensured his own demise, and I'm about to tell you how!
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YORUMLAR: 9 926
MangosFury
MangosFury 3 yıl önce
I have a theory Pennywise was just a very aggressive therapist
venus
venus 8 gün önce
Yea.
Raphael James Arquisola
Raphael James Arquisola 4 aylar önce
Like jigsaw in a way instead of death pennywise would threaten you with you fear
Mjazz
Mjazz 5 aylar önce
A therapist that needed therapy
Zack
Zack 5 aylar önce
Theory conformed
EvelynCloudy
EvelynCloudy 7 aylar önce
I think Pennywise needs a therapist
Austrager
Austrager Yıl önce
The fact that Georgie's paper boat survived all that time in the sewer without disintegrating from all the water is even more scary than Pennywise
Gliych
Gliych 2 aylar önce
Witchcraft
Gracie Blaze
Gracie Blaze 2 aylar önce
@king inferno93 paraffin for the win!
Alice CS
Alice CS 4 aylar önce
fax
John Suckerton
John Suckerton 4 aylar önce
In the book, after Pennywise kills Georgie, Bill sees the boat still floating outside his window.
Pavins 0.5 Girlfriend
Pavins 0.5 Girlfriend 4 aylar önce
@samira perazza its made of titanium
tootyfruity
tootyfruity 2 yıl önce
I think if Richie has just told Eddie how he felt he would’ve overcome his fear and in that sense Eddie wouldn’t need to die
Emma Arias
Emma Arias 27 gün önce
You notice if they took Eddie with them they could have all died because he would have slowed them down- he didn’t die but he had to be left behind.
Nekophy_
Nekophy_ 3 aylar önce
Late but I don’t think that would have worked, the way the ritual works is that the token has to be destroyed. If Eddie was Richie’s token, the Eddie had to be destroyed in order for the ritual to work.
Van Theoffer L. Gutierrez
Van Theoffer L. Gutierrez 2 yıl önce
Gordon Ramsay would defeat pennywise in seconds.
Ensensu2
Ensensu2 2 gün önce
@Mexikuma When they say throw it in the oven they don't mean LITERALLY!
Ensensu2
Ensensu2 2 gün önce
@St0rm_K1ll3r Gordon Ramsey's Grandma is Baba Yaga?
Malhar Gotkhindikar
Malhar Gotkhindikar 2 aylar önce
Bro will make the largest idiot sandwich out of Pennywise LMAO
Abdullah Asif Nawaz
Abdullah Asif Nawaz 3 aylar önce
@storm killer *play the disc scratching*
Uzair Ahmed
Uzair Ahmed 2 yıl önce
"he's at home, he's alone in his massive house, refusing to attend meetings. He's isolated." Now this dude should be our role model.
Planet Rida
Planet Rida 4 aylar önce
Uhhhhh it kinda happened to everyone in 2020
River person
River person 8 aylar önce
It hard to argue with there assessment
Moonrise
Moonrise 9 aylar önce
Your right....
DashFire
DashFire Yıl önce
Bruh
goofy ah
goofy ah Yıl önce
YESSSS
Paige Horrocks
Paige Horrocks 2 yıl önce
Are we all just going to ignore the fact that when Richie and Eddie open the not scary door it was a littoral closet??? K cool
Mercurii
Mercurii 7 aylar önce
I DIDN'T EVEN NOTICE THAT OH MY-
Pokecat
Pokecat 9 aylar önce
Once you enter the closet… you have to come out… that’s frighting in more ways then 1
Virgon Dust
Virgon Dust Yıl önce
@Wahid Ali perfectly balanced as all things should be
Demonmaster_3
Demonmaster_3 Yıl önce
When you remember Richie was closeted-
Impossiblemusic55
Impossiblemusic55 Yıl önce
There was a girl that was being creepy they never saw. Mmkay
Little ginger
Little ginger 3 yıl önce
That wasn’t a theory, that was the true meaning behind this entire movie. Well done matpat. 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Boomslang
Boomslang 5 aylar önce
Dude…do you remember this lol this argument was so funny bro 🤣
Kalief Foster
Kalief Foster 8 aylar önce
Well done
Logan Demar
Logan Demar 9 aylar önce
Jesus loves you all, have a blessed day or night. May His peace be with you. ❤️❤️
joker campos
joker campos 9 aylar önce
@a person who may or may not exist J I
SVnents
SVnents 9 aylar önce
holy sh¡t, there’s an actual argument that lasted over a full year 😱 that’s just plain out stupid- you end a argument, not last it. this is f*cking weird- i know i’m not continuing this 😊 it’s just a surprise for people to start doing such a strange thing for such a long amount of time.
Novalunosis_
Novalunosis_ 2 yıl önce
“Eddie is richies true token” *𝒪𝓊𝒸𝒽*
venus
venus 5 gün önce
_yowch_
DaFilmQueen
DaFilmQueen 4 aylar önce
"Sacrifice? I nominate Eddie" little did he know, that joke of his foreshadowed his beloved's death..
Мирјана Адамовић
Мирјана Адамовић 5 aylar önce
~ouch~
gibberish nugget
gibberish nugget 5 aylar önce
That sentence just hits different....
Blanket Gremlin
Blanket Gremlin 7 aylar önce
Ow.
Tom Gallagher
Tom Gallagher 2 yıl önce
matt: doesn't mention stantleys suicide for sacrifice Stanley: *Sad Stanley noises*
The Child Dormleader Of Ramshackle
The Child Dormleader Of Ramshackle Yıl önce
Ooo thats gotta hurt
Winter Youngblood
Winter Youngblood Yıl önce
ik i was so sad 🤧
Pablo The Wartortle
Pablo The Wartortle 2 yıl önce
He can’t make noises tho?
Panquake
Panquake 2 yıl önce
@KARL HYBRID it wasn’t?
KARL HYBRID
KARL HYBRID 2 yıl önce
That was not a sacrifice.
Beezledrop
Beezledrop Yıl önce
This is one of your strongest theories. This and Agent Smith being the true One. This one is so good I've accepted it as cannon and by proxy IT Chapter 2 is a much better movie for it. Well done Matpat.
venus
venus 5 gün önce
Yes.
The Mage
The Mage 5 aylar önce
Same
N.U.K.
N.U.K. 2 yıl önce
Fun Fact: IT is pronounced like the word "et" in Denmark which means one. So in Denmark when you say the titel of the sequel it sounds like you're saying "One Chapter Two" 😁
rares r
rares r 2 aylar önce
Whats your favorite movie? *one chapter one*
CocaColaStan
CocaColaStan 8 aylar önce
@SubliminalGOAT just no. Nothing else.
R3DV01D
R3DV01D 9 aylar önce
@yuusuf jama oh sorry i guess my translater is wrong
yuusuf jama
yuusuf jama 9 aylar önce
@R3DV01D im not i said oh a danish
Kitkat
Kitkat 7 aylar önce
Honestly I understand how hard and scary it would have been for Richie to admit his feelings for Eddie, but if he had told him, his arcade token would have worked bc it’s overcoming his fear of not being accepted so Eddie could have theoretically lived.
StarMisura
StarMisura 9 gün önce
@Aubrie Whitcomb rainbows
Aubrie Whitcomb
Aubrie Whitcomb 22 gün önce
This 🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍🌈
Bianca Perez
Bianca Perez 3 yıl önce
Not going to lie- Beverly's Father is way more scary than Pennywise.
ricardo avacado
ricardo avacado 2 aylar önce
Cap
[자찍어cheese]귀염둥이
[자찍어cheese]귀염둥이 2 aylar önce
NO CUZ LITERALLY😭😭bro literally gives me the creeps-
ricardo avacado
ricardo avacado 5 aylar önce
no he isn't. You don't know what you're talking about
The Lord of the lost luncheon
The Lord of the lost luncheon 10 aylar önce
Honestly, because that kind of evil person exist.
lanx
lanx 10 aylar önce
true, i was a victim of child molesting and it was really triggering
Spooky. Innit
Spooky. Innit 2 yıl önce
The losers picking up the phone actually makes sense, remember that the losers have a strange connection, this causes them to feel an attraction to the call when they see it's from dairy main. I could be 100% wrong but it makes sense to me
Lyon Lars
Lyon Lars 7 aylar önce
It's the shine. All of Steven kings books love within the same universe, the shining, the green mile, it, the dark tower etc. All have characters with the shine and it connects them..
Sebastia Solano
Sebastia Solano 10 aylar önce
Very late but yea in the book bill describes it like a fish hook that stuck to him
Spooky. Innit
Spooky. Innit 2 yıl önce
@Rockaidenator sorry 😅
Rockaidenator
Rockaidenator 2 yıl önce
It's Maine but yea that could make sense
Ice L
Ice L 2 yıl önce
Matpats local theatre must be like: Employee) he’s back... Boss) who’s back? Employee) him..
A_WILD_ELF_CAT
A_WILD_ELF_CAT 2 yıl önce
There favorite customer he pays so much for a theory
Butter Boi
Butter Boi 2 yıl önce
Dramatic music sting in background
PrinceGem J
PrinceGem J 2 yıl önce
@Rachel Musick *If only dislikes mattered.*
TheHarmonizer
TheHarmonizer 2 yıl önce
@Rachel Musickyou are forgiven.
Rachel Musick
Rachel Musick 2 yıl önce
I accidentally disliked this while trying to like it I fixed it dont worry but I just wanted to say it was an accident
Callahan
Callahan 2 yıl önce
This is the most tragic coming out story ever seriously though, what a tragic story, your loved one has to die for you to realise what they mean to you.
DIAMOND MEMER
DIAMOND MEMER 11 aylar önce
That's kind of like real life
MD_1601
MD_1601 11 aylar önce
@Toge is adorable it was his daughter
Toge is adorable
Toge is adorable Yıl önce
@Din Djarin if you mean thanos and lady death than that wasn’t sad thanos was just a simp
Earthbendbeast
Earthbendbeast Yıl önce
you dont know tragic till you hear the story of sif and artorias
Din Djarin
Din Djarin Yıl önce
Cough thanos cough
Madeline Mammone
Madeline Mammone 2 yıl önce
My theory is this: When Richie was caught in the dead lights, he sees his worst fear, right? So maybe the rest of the movie from when Richie goes into the deadlights is from his point of view, seeing his worst fear played out. Watching the man he loves die and, having to live without him. Cuz Andy Muschietti even said they might make another movie and, how could you do that, if Pennywise is dead.
DaFilmQueen
DaFilmQueen Aylar önce
​@James Mancuso, could Eddie be a vessel? Like, that is how they do it nowadays, I wouldn't be surprised if Pennywise decided to go cheap and do that stuff.
James Mancuso
James Mancuso 5 aylar önce
Pennywise, in some form, survived, or resurrected. Stephen King's cosmology is vast and funky, but the Turtle's dead nowadays, and Dreamcatcher has a memorial to the Loser's Club with an explicit bit of graffiti that says Pennywise Lives.
Balanc-Joy918
Balanc-Joy918 11 aylar önce
@Song Soojin Yes, I said that above already, but the novel itself says Pennywise is _dead_ pretty much, and the possibility of missing eggs is brought up. It's only _later_ novels by Stephen King that bring up the possibility Pennywise Itself is still alive.
Song Soojin
Song Soojin 11 aylar önce
@Balanc-Joy918 but it laid eggs and the losers wasnt sure if they destroid it all
Balanc-Joy918
Balanc-Joy918 Yıl önce
@broopdefloop ....I don't fully understand what you mean, what "lights going out" do you mean, and what "shapeless monster", but no, the novel itself has Pennywise begging for Its life, and has Its heart ripped out and destroyed, and the ending pretty clearly leaving it at "It is DEAD" since they _all_ start forgetting everything this time.
Adrianna Murren
Adrianna Murren Yıl önce
I’m scared of clowns and horror movies, but one of my best friends has an OBSESSION with the movie IT. This helped me understand the ending and a bit of the plot. Thanks matpat!
LilMissIamsodonehere _23
LilMissIamsodonehere _23 3 yıl önce
I feel like knowing this only makes Pennywise's last words even better. That line caught me off guard but gave me shivers when I saw the movie. "Oh, your all grown up", they were finally able to get rid of their fears.
Axolotlwithaglock
Axolotlwithaglock Yıl önce
@-Hello yea penny *wise*
Mr hat 1234 plays
Mr hat 1234 plays Yıl önce
@-Hello REEEEEEEEE
Heehoo
Heehoo 2 yıl önce
Awww, Penny:(
Musically Emi
Musically Emi 2 yıl önce
He sounds like a dad who’s proud of his kids growing up, funny.
byron burgess
byron burgess 2 yıl önce
@Michael St. Michaels he just said it but it was "Oh, your all grown up "
quiplo
quiplo 2 yıl önce
I don’t know how he did it, but IT chapter two is an ABSOLUTE mess and yet I still love it. There’s just something about this series that is so appealing.
Abraham 2
Abraham 2 Yıl önce
I loved It chapter 2 as well.
keira
keira 2 yıl önce
“Eddie was richies” token My reddie heart is shattered rn
[자찍어cheese]귀염둥이
[자찍어cheese]귀염둥이 2 aylar önce
That hurt me so bad 😭
hineraable
hineraable Yıl önce
Wait! I just remember something, when Mike says that the ritual of Chüd requires a sacrifice, Richie immediately says that they should sacrifice Eddie, he was joking of course but could this be some type of foreshadowing?
Demonmaster_3
Demonmaster_3 Yıl önce
Oh fu-
Dino Ricky
Dino Ricky Yıl önce
Omg
Soldier
Soldier 2 yıl önce
“Or, heat up mikes rock because you know, it’s a rock” Killed me
Dino Ricky
Dino Ricky Yıl önce
Lol
GuardianWolfKim's Sanctuary
GuardianWolfKim's Sanctuary 2 yıl önce
Wow, just wow. Mind blown. I love it when a theory makes all the puzzle pieces click perfectly into place! Thank you MatPat, this makes so much more sense now!
Cheekies
Cheekies 3 yıl önce
Eddy: I got an inhaler Richie: I got a token Bill: I got a paper boat Bev: I got a haiku Mike: ...I got a rock :(
Pkmn Trainer Red
Pkmn Trainer Red Yıl önce
Ben: I got the yearbook page which got signed by my crush only... no one else signed it... *sigh* Bev: Wait, I was the one who signed it. 🤨 Ben: Uh... I-I.... how do I explain this...
Nico Di Angelo
Nico Di Angelo Yıl önce
To be fair though the rock war was one of my favorite scenes
DashFire
DashFire Yıl önce
Such truth
Kira
Kira Yıl önce
Stans got a... A raz-... A showercap
FishyPlayz
FishyPlayz Yıl önce
Cavemen: and I’ve got a cave
Sandy Limon
Sandy Limon 2 yıl önce
Theory: Pennywise is a Boggart and all the kids that try to stop him are either Muggles or Squibs.
Loki-Verse
Loki-Verse 4 aylar önce
Boggarts are actually kid-friendly versions of Pennywise. Change my mind.
Zak1999
Zak1999 7 aylar önce
lol
« Spider Man »
« Spider Man » 9 aylar önce
@Seri Chekuri Finally.... *a worthy opponent.*
Tiny Tinker Gacha
Tiny Tinker Gacha 2 yıl önce
xDD
Accio_Firewhiskey
Accio_Firewhiskey 2 yıl önce
👁️👄👁️ I was just about to take a bite of my food then read this
ApolloTheSunion
ApolloTheSunion 2 yıl önce
Look he made a point that Eddie didnt face his fears and that he just did what he had to do ( 7:32 ), but he literally choked out his fear, matpat come on, like you could've mentioned how he is the only one who faced his fears, which makes sense because he is the first to attack IT
bugaboo
bugaboo Yıl önce
he still tried to save his MOM. the source of the fear is his mom she gave him his hypocondriac tendancies
Vexbane Aramori
Vexbane Aramori Yıl önce
eddie also stood up to the old bully. standing up to pennywise isn't the first time he fought instead of ran.
Le Pie
Le Pie 2 yıl önce
Eddie was richies true token. My cold little heart is breaking
Johnny C
Johnny C 2 yıl önce
I'll try to dive a little deeper. I think Stanley's suicide broke their pact & ultimately guaranteed Pennywise's survival. The *remaining* Losers' Club won the battle because they learned the strategy & were true to their cause. Pennywise won the war, though. He was defeated, not killed. Just my theory... An ADDED FILM THEORY!. We'll find out in 25 years, I guess😧😄
Tformerdude
Tformerdude 5 aylar önce
Alternatively, Stan's suicide could be considered Pennywise's last victory before he got defeated. He got one final point for the scoreboard before he went down.
SammyGecko_
SammyGecko_ 2 yıl önce
As much as I hate how this implies that Stan’s sacrifice was actually damaging and NOT a noble sacrifice... yeah it makes sense
Isaberry XD
Isaberry XD 2 yıl önce
Pennywise: I am the Eater Of Worlds The losers: loser Pennywise: *dies*
sarimah osman
sarimah osman 2 yıl önce
Eater of worlds
sarimah osman
sarimah osman 2 yıl önce
Terraria reference
Belle Adams
Belle Adams 3 yıl önce
Film Theory: How Pennywise accidentally committed suicide
Keith Mars
Keith Mars 7 aylar önce
You beat me to the punch I was about to say that
Zak1999
Zak1999 7 aylar önce
lol
Santa
Santa 8 aylar önce
Haha
Partisc
Partisc 8 aylar önce
Fax
ANIMAGE
ANIMAGE 2 yıl önce
To think that if Richie has told Eddie about his feelings beforehand, this may not have even happened
Tanvi Argekar
Tanvi Argekar 2 yıl önce
I guess if he had told Eddie that trauma associated with that would be destroyed but idk it's still super sad
SammyGecko_
SammyGecko_ 2 yıl önce
I guess... but like.. is it really more of the mental token that has to be destroyed?? Or does it have to be both????
Kelen Pilkenton
Kelen Pilkenton 2 yıl önce
I was left confused and disappointed by the end of Chapter 2 and I'm SO GRATEFUL for our Lord and savior MatPat for doing all the heavy thinking for me. I now appreciate this movie WAY more.
MADD T
MADD T Yıl önce
My dad was reading the book, then after he made sling shots with his friends riding bikes looking for Pennywise.
Journey
Journey Yıl önce
Sounds like your dad and his friends were already over their fears or ready to face them, the sort of kids/people that Pennywise wouldn't want to fight
Alfie x
Alfie x Yıl önce
After I watched this I went to the sewers and covered all of them with cardboard and the next day they won’t there maybe they got picked up lol
Abbey Phillips
Abbey Phillips 2 yıl önce
I don’t even this is a theory I think you genuinely found the true meaning of the movie...well done matpat😌
Rylie Walla
Rylie Walla Yıl önce
All they had to do was tell each other how much they care about everyone in the group. Not just Richie to Eddie and Ben to Beverly. Show they care for one another and that they're not going to leave and they all would have lived.
Max Schwarzenberg
Max Schwarzenberg 3 yıl önce
Pennywise: *Kills Eddie The rest of the losers club: Congratulations, you played yourself.
Crackhead•Fander
Crackhead•Fander 3 yıl önce
Losers: dont play yourself dont play yourself PENNYWISE:kills Eddie Losers: you played yourself
kurt
kurt 3 yıl önce
me: *sobbing but clapping*
usuario normal
usuario normal 3 yıl önce
was getting caught part of your masterplan
andromeda
andromeda 3 yıl önce
it ending in a nutshell
Vikki Mouse
Vikki Mouse 3 yıl önce
Lol
peggy dragonell
peggy dragonell 2 yıl önce
To Eddie's credit at the start with getting his token he did actually try to confront his past in literally suffocating IT but once it throws up in his face he runs away so he was to closest to defeating IT in the first place
ccshoyo
ccshoyo 2 yıl önce
mike & stan were legit underrated characters. stan the man's suicide for sacrifice wasn't metioned.
stan the man
stan the man Yıl önce
thank you! i really feel like stan's death was really overlooked and nobody really cared. and with mike, he barely had a role in both movies bc he wasnt introduced later into the first movie and in the 2nd movie they showed everyone getting their token but his and it makes me sad bc they are both my favorite people of the losers club
Mike Skinner
Mike Skinner 2 yıl önce
After seeing these movies, and the deep dive commentaries about them, I'm glad big budget movies were made about such a great book, but at the same time I'm also wishing they just didn't do it at all. The best case for doing a proper onscreen adaptation of IT would be a multi season TV show, where the story could be properly told over the right amount of time. Even with these combined run times, they still took a wood chipper to the actual story and made an absolute mess of the narrative.
Matuk
Matuk 2 yıl önce
Noooooooooooouu. That means Eddie HAS to die on every remake. I want a version where him and STANLEY survive or revive at the end so Stan can become Reddie's maid of honor
Lemon Tea
Lemon Tea 2 yıl önce
@Monica Akers but if he confessed then he would over-come his fear, imma sob too :'C
Monica Akers
Monica Akers 2 yıl önce
“Eddie was Richie’s real token” ...I did not expect to cry tonight- Edit: I also just realized that if Eddie really was a token, there would really be no choice but to have him die for them. Richie could never save him because his death was what they needed to defeat Pennywise. Now that I’ve got that out, I’m gonna go sob in my closet for a while :))
Lemon Tea
Lemon Tea 2 yıl önce
@Lord Passion It is, at the 2017 it is
best boy nagito
best boy nagito 2 yıl önce
@Lord Passion well thats fine! :D
Lord Passion
Lord Passion 2 yıl önce
@best boy nagito I'm a purist, don't mind me.
D Banshee
D Banshee 6 aylar önce
I think the only other way for Richie to overcome his fear would be to confess to Eddie, which in theory is way easier but Richie only would've realized Eddie was his token and biggest fear either if they had more time or if Eddie died. And they didn't have more time..... This whole entire two movies make SO MUCH more sense after this video-
JC G.
JC G. 3 yıl önce
*Fails to kill Pennywise in IT Chapter 1* Pennywise: *"Fine, I'll do it myself"*
Jed loves DR & RY
Jed loves DR & RY 3 yıl önce
=P I mean it’s not wrong-
Mama_luigi_the_jeffy_fan_destroyer
Mama_luigi_the_jeffy_fan_destroyer 3 yıl önce
no one cares if it’s stolen
Chrissy
Chrissy 3 yıl önce
@Kaely Graeff no body CARES GEEZ
Random Person
Random Person 3 yıl önce
Pennywise be like: hey *losers club* wanna *kill* me Losers:no thanks mr.*penny* Pennywise:but i want to die (Real thing: muffin:hey joey,wanna eat me Joey:no thanms mr.muffin Muffin:but i wanna die)
Kaely Graeff
Kaely Graeff 3 yıl önce
This is a stolen comment.
Cole Dunkeson
Cole Dunkeson 2 yıl önce
I recall in the book part of the reason they’re able to beat pennywise is because his transformations obeyed the rules of the form, partly because of the belief of the kids he was feeding from. The werewolf form was weak against silver because that’s what the kids believed and the final battle as adults the gang got back in that mind space and used their childhood beliefs to fight against pennywise. Otherwise I can’t remember too much about the book, though I recall it wasn’t that difficult to understand
SuperVaIle
SuperVaIle 2 yıl önce
This is possibly my favourite Film Theory so far, and I've been subscribed since forever.
ME HOY ME NOY
ME HOY ME NOY 2 yıl önce
I gotta say, that scene where the naked grandma ran at Jessica Chastain was fucking hilarious. This movie was more a comedy than a horror film.
ShawnD
ShawnD 7 aylar önce
Most of the "scary" moments just made me laugh. The baby faced spider crab fortune cookie monster was just ridiculous.
Abraham 2
Abraham 2 Yıl önce
Or when the lepra dude vormited at Eddie while that song was playing.
EnderIsGayAF
EnderIsGayAF 2 yıl önce
"Eddie is Richie's true token" inhale *sobs uncontrollably*
Silver
Silver 6 aylar önce
When Mike stood in front of the Spider Pennywise, repeatedly apologizing for lying to his friends, that was him facing his fears.
Crab Drinker
Crab Drinker 3 yıl önce
The ritual failed for the Native Americans because they did not believe that Pennywise could be killed.
LT Silver
LT Silver 9 aylar önce
Makes sense, because their trauma is It itself.
Original greatdouchebag
Original greatdouchebag 10 aylar önce
@FOS untill pennywise showed them the truth and told them how he tried to cover the last Pannel
Original greatdouchebag
Original greatdouchebag 10 aylar önce
*Indians* l2 history
joel ygot jr
joel ygot jr Yıl önce
r.i.p the native americans
Luisa Mamede
Luisa Mamede Yıl önce
u sounding like mike lol
carmen the bookworm
carmen the bookworm 2 yıl önce
“Eddie was Richie’s real token” ...I did not expect to cry tonight- Edit: I also just realized that if Eddie really was a token, there would really be no choice but to have him die for them. Richie could never save him because his death was what they needed to defeat Pennywise. Now that I’ve got that out, I’m gonna go sob in my closet for a while :))
Hyperfixation Central
Hyperfixation Central 2 yıl önce
It's fine, we can just look at fanart of them being happy as kids It's fine
envy ♡
envy ♡ 2 yıl önce
@Allen -Licious *c l o s e t*
Vexbane Aramori
Vexbane Aramori 2 yıl önce
EdwardSpagedward89 HOW DARE YOU xD
Allen -Licious
Allen -Licious 2 yıl önce
Dang it I don't have a closet to sob in.
nitsua gaming
nitsua gaming 2 yıl önce
EdwardSpagedward89 foreshadowing i didn't realize
Matt
Matt 2 yıl önce
Just finished the movie, and I thought that what you explained was pretty well established in the movie. You did clear up a good chunk of the symbolism for me, but I did get the gist of it.
xHappy_Life
xHappy_Life Yıl önce
MatPat: *Makes up a complicated theory on why the ritual didn't work* Me: And here I was, thinking that the real reason was because rocks don't burn
Gregory Greenwood-Nimmo
Gregory Greenwood-Nimmo 2 yıl önce
There is a simple option - the Losers have a fair degree of Shining between them, enough to harm Pennywise if focussed properly, such as through a fully completed Ritual of Chud. Knowing this, Pennywise fakes them out rather than risk continuing a fight that might have resulted in significant harm to the Deadlights, and allows them to believe that they won. The fact that they won in a manner that seems to contain a rather negative message of the power of petty mean spiritedness could be a clue that this was not a true victory after all. Having convinced the Losers the threat is passed, IT can then simply wait them out, since the next time it emerges from hibernation they will be 27 years older and so that much further away from their childhood bond that forms a major part of their power.
Constantin B
Constantin B Yıl önce
The thing is... by watching this theory. The ending now makes completely sence. In the end, we though ON the surface of the ritual thing, not what it is inside. Still, Very good theory
Just Some Guy without a Mustache
Just Some Guy without a Mustache 2 yıl önce
Pennywise: My biggest weakness is getting roasted by words Eminem: Allow me to introduce myself
WRENSTAR
WRENSTAR 2 aylar önce
Hey penny wise! U have big head!
LogeyPerogi
LogeyPerogi 5 aylar önce
His palms are sweaty, knees weak arms are heavy, there’s vomit on his costume already, child spaghetti
°•Sam•°
°•Sam•° 5 aylar önce
Erica: let me introduce myself.
Connor Scott-McAliley
Connor Scott-McAliley 7 aylar önce
Laughs in Daveed Diggs
I'm Simple
I'm Simple 2 yıl önce
The only time I cried for OT 2 was Eddie because can you imagine having the person you've loved for so long but never told your feelings to getting killed and that chance at a happy ending for you both is taken away? Hit me right in the feels.
Armando Willem
Armando Willem 2 yıl önce
Best part is Ritchie about to say the classic line from Die Hard but gets full on blasted with the Deadlights. "Yippie Ki-yay Mother-....." *Jaw, arms, legs go slack*
ThatIdiotWithInternetAccess
ThatIdiotWithInternetAccess Yıl önce
I always laugh so hard at that, i’m still laughing when Eddie dies and then i just kinda sit there
JenniferGennifer
JenniferGennifer 9 aylar önce
Okay this just blew my mind. Fantastic job Matt ! This is really the true meaning of IT 2
A Frog
A Frog 2 yıl önce
Mike: -calls Stanley- Stanley: *Aight, imma head out*
xxG☆Bxx
xxG☆Bxx Yıl önce
Theory: Pennywise forms into a person’s fear, they kept shouting “I’m not *scared* of Pennywise!” and that blocks his powers.
AvocadoJas
AvocadoJas 3 yıl önce
They literally insulted and roasted pennywise to death Stanley would’ve had fun
Ed209
Ed209 2 yıl önce
From the office?
SammyGecko_
SammyGecko_ 2 yıl önce
Dude... don’t do it... don’t give me hope.. Imagining it makes it feel worse because he TOTALLY would have had the time of his life. I’m also still mad about the shower-cap thing and how shoved in it felt but. Eh.
PigeonFood
PigeonFood 2 yıl önce
Arthur Davey dont you dare
Jinjer Egg
Jinjer Egg 3 yıl önce
Don't forget Lemony Snicket
Mississippi King
Mississippi King 3 yıl önce
@L0stDog1 You read my mind fellow office fan
Jaccofspades92
Jaccofspades92 2 yıl önce
I actually think eddie got over his fear in the basement with the leper. He says at the end that it felt so weak when he was choking it. He only left cause it puked on him.
Thierno Diallo
Thierno Diallo 2 yıl önce
Demon: shape shifts into your worst nightmares and murders you in the most psychologically terrifyingly way possible Loser club: ur not very scary. Demon: *ded*
lied shax
lied shax Yıl önce
@Jeff Simmons his true form is the lil light bulb that gets sucked in the do hickey from the ritual
Madden Wulff
Madden Wulff Yıl önce
@Jeff Simmons I disagree it was the dead lights I think
°lunar news°
°lunar news° Yıl önce
@Jeff Simmons no it's the 3 lights inside his mouth
FishyPlayz
FishyPlayz Yıl önce
@Jeff Simmons he’s a spider? Slap him and died
Din Djarin
Din Djarin Yıl önce
#buuuuuuurn
dorin no.2
dorin no.2 Yıl önce
Film theory editors are crazy good at editing
Alex Waddington
Alex Waddington 2 yıl önce
I've always wondered whether IT might have been a force for good in the Stephen king universe. Forcing people to confront their fears and past traumas, making them happier people going forward. Just a shower thought from my childhood
Mellou
Mellou 9 aylar önce
This is actually great, and reminds me of Gravity Falls. The comparison of getting over fears and getting over ego is really interesting to me. The characters in Gravity Falls all sacrifice themselves to help each other, which is what eventually brings Bill down, and finally getting over their trauma, enough to fully move on and to not sulk and regret over their past, to be on the aggressive against Pennywise instead of running from him, is his downfall. It's symbolized by Eddie's sacrifice, his final actions to realize what had to be done and attack Pennywise to get over his fear. It's unfortunate that he was one of the tokens, but it was the only way that Pennywise could actually be defeated. Similar to Bill being erased along with the rest of Stan's mind. I'm not sure why I thought this, considering the themes aren't even the same, but the sacrifice really makes you think about the similarities.
I Love Fried Chicken
I Love Fried Chicken 3 yıl önce
Pennywise: I am the eater of worlds Losers club: haha clown Pennywise: *Dies*
Christopher Mitchell
Christopher Mitchell 3 yıl önce
It was explained in the movie tho. That there's more than one way to make some "small." Physically but also mentally. ✌️
Magma_Man 750
Magma_Man 750 3 yıl önce
IT got the full force of a CoD chat in 2008
Tor McLean
Tor McLean 3 yıl önce
@Frederik L. The comment you were responding to was a joke. You know, not a serious remark meant to be taken seriously
Isabella Sheahan-Parks
Isabella Sheahan-Parks 3 yıl önce
Other Terraria fans: U COPIED TERRARIA! Me, a Terraria fan: ah, I see you are a man/woman of culture as well
#1 Friend
#1 Friend 3 yıl önce
Boomers: Millenials are weak Millenials: Ok boomer Boomers: *Dies*
Mitchell Draper
Mitchell Draper 2 yıl önce
All I could say is everyone is entitled to there own options as such a theory in definition, because it wasn’t confirmed by Stevan king himself as film theory tackles this movie talking about the cast and crew overcoming there fears as such the quest to find said tokens of there past, witch made an adventure as a group . As told by the theorist himself it’s just a film theory but in regard to all of this I don’t even come to think that if pennywise was wise he wouldn’t have killed Eddie as that became his demise
Jesse Johnston
Jesse Johnston 2 yıl önce
The more I hear about this movie the more I feel like if the Doctor would have been there he would have solved this pretty quick and it would've been over and done with in one episode rather than two movies.
R m E
R m E 2 yıl önce
Read the book it be good
putracomel
putracomel Yıl önce
Can we just talk about how george got his arm bit off and took it like a champ bruh he was 9
RandomNB
RandomNB Yıl önce
Omg true lol Georgie (i think that’s how you spelt it) is a champ
Leanda Zietsman
Leanda Zietsman 2 yıl önce
I love your channels! Keep up the great work 👌
FrozenZenBerry
FrozenZenBerry 2 yıl önce
Well this certainly makes the movie a lot better for me. Thank you for saving the ending MatPat, lol.
thewrenchbench
thewrenchbench 3 yıl önce
riche: jokes about sacrificing eddie matpat: okay but listen-
mackenzieish
mackenzieish 3 yıl önce
Yeah that line hits so different now 😂 like Richie don't say that you just picked your token- ah shit
Lyrica
Lyrica 2 yıl önce
In this 16 minute video, references to Stanley (his image, his token, Judith, and the quote from his letter) lasted 56 seconds in total. Rip Stan :(
Boots Mecat
Boots Mecat 2 yıl önce
I can probably explain the phone call question! First of all, the character remember that they grew up in Derry, Maine, but they don't remember details about each other. Second, for some it says the place, for some it says says that it's an unknown number. Eddie- Might have thought it was someone calling about his family or his mother's home. His mother is already dead by Chapter 2. Someone might be interested in buying the house in his mind. Richie- Unknown number. Possibly a fancall, possibly for work. Maybe someone calling to book him. Yeah, that would be his managers job, but once again, it might be a fancall. Stanley- He's shown to remember. He remembers everything. Bill- Once again, a work call. Bev- Work call. Ben- Work call. Most of the time, it's a work call.
Zander Yost
Zander Yost Yıl önce
As someone who read the book... Them killing pennywise by insulting him makes sense because what he believes is what is true. If they make him think he is stupid, then he is. If they make him think he is a wild cat, he is.
Blobbyfanfictrash
Blobbyfanfictrash 2 yıl önce
This is the actual meaning of both the movies and the book. Great job Matt
LittleTheory
LittleTheory Yıl önce
During Ritchie's token gathering, he's literally confronted by (the now dead) Adrian from the beginning of the movie, who hands him the funeral services pamphlet with his face on it. Ritchie himself reveals in the beginning that he doesn't write his own material either. So yeah, the director was subtle about it.
Aubs Hull
Aubs Hull 3 yıl önce
Penny wise: a freaking monster that feeds on fear and eats kids Losers: lol ok boomer Penny wise: *dies*
Liwiathan
Liwiathan Yıl önce
@Char The dorky Swedish kid
Char
Char Yıl önce
@Liwiathan ? Pennywise was several billion years old
Liwiathan
Liwiathan Yıl önce
He was 27
Flazer Razer
Flazer Razer 2 yıl önce
@bling bling 56-74
Flazer Razer
Flazer Razer 2 yıl önce
@Shcade YT gender has nothing to do with boomers they are a generation of people and MOST of them refuse to learn or accept modern technological advancements and use what are provided by them the phrase "ok boomer" is not referring to this generation however it refers to anyone who falls under the common stereotype of most boomers
helljumper 256
helljumper 256 2 yıl önce
I.T Universe: No spam calls, but has a demon clown Mat: A small price for salvation
gutted
gutted 2 yıl önce
"You should show how you feel without fear, shame or regret" Best thing i have ever heard! Be who you are no matter what
Balanc-Joy918
Balanc-Joy918 Yıl önce
This is why I prefer the books, adaptations often make everything _so_ much more confusing... Very good layout of what the movies _were_ going for at least... Also, they didn't just _punch_ Pennywise to death in the book, nor did they _need_ Eddie to die for them to defeat It, they were fighting back and hurting It throughout the story.
b m
b m 2 yıl önce
where did you got this theory? it's freakin amazing! i read IT 20 years ago, but now it not only makes sense, but also has so much depth, emotion and wisdom that it becomes incredibly amazing. i almost cried watching this theory to an end. it's making this movie better than mulholland drive
DJ Art
DJ Art Yıl önce
This is SOOOO good! Omg I completely understand the movie’s ending now
Amy Shin
Amy Shin 3 yıl önce
Pennywise: exists Pennywise: Finally, a worthy opponent.
Bonnie Fazman
Bonnie Fazman 3 yıl önce
Pennywise: *confused honking noises*
Transient Lion
Transient Lion 3 yıl önce
Our battle will be legendary!
Landsharksimie
Landsharksimie 2 yıl önce
I have never cried more than thinking about and watching Richie finally realizing his love for Eddie, like I am crying more than I did during “Dear Evan Hansen”.
Lunestia Crescent
Lunestia Crescent 2 yıl önce
I had thought they simply misunderstood the translation for the ritual. That it wasn't supposed to trap him but rather summon him and or make him vulnerable. Kind of like counting before a duel. The ritual simply starts the fight and the Natives just didn't win. Edit: though both could be true. The ritual burning could summon IT and the overcoming of trauma is what was needed to win.
Prathit Prasad
Prathit Prasad Yıl önce
I think the IT movies carry a deeper meaning that the past is something that we fear but actually its just a way for us to see how should we act in the future we should act the way we didn't in our traumatic past so that the trauma remains the past
Zerith Prime
Zerith Prime 2 yıl önce
This actually makes a lot of sense. Thanks Film Theorists!
xSpookyGhoulGirlx
xSpookyGhoulGirlx Yıl önce
This makes so much sense!! I never even looked at it that way but you laying it out like this it just clicks better!
Tyrannosaurus Vex
Tyrannosaurus Vex 3 yıl önce
In the book Eddie died because he imagined his inhaler was acid and sprayed it in to pennywises mouth and then gets his arm bit off then bleeds to death
Spair M
Spair M 2 yıl önce
Savannah Holleman yeah but we’re not talking about the book
RED
RED 2 yıl önce
No I think he died cuz he was suppost to be one of the tokens
Alfonso Valdez
Alfonso Valdez 2 yıl önce
Savannah Holleman oof lol
S V
S V 3 yıl önce
Suicidal Fox you're cool I am a new adult and loser I'm 18😁
Austin McCormick8
Austin McCormick8 2 yıl önce
I find it funny Eddie throwing the spear at Pennywise is very symbolic. Like in the movie 300 when the leader throws the spear at the Persian leader. Unfortunately for him. It mearly grazed him, but you saw it hurt him and that was really all that mattered. That he can be hurt. There for, he can be killed. Just like Pennywise
HydraForLife
HydraForLife 2 yıl önce
Aw, I fricking love some good story writing.
Charlotte
Charlotte 6 aylar önce
The way I audibly screamed at 7:50 Also At least he didn’t mention the fact of how likely Eddie was in love with Richie to🤷🏼‍♀️
Alice Christopher
Alice Christopher 2 yıl önce
The ending was worse than one of Bill’s books 😂
VildSvinet 2000
VildSvinet 2000 10 aylar önce
i like how much they changed about the ritual of chud in the movie because in the book it has something to do with biting into it's tounge
Pe6ce
Pe6ce 3 yıl önce
Matpat: Hes also the only one of the losers club that- Me: thats bla- Matpat: stayed back in derry Me: yeah, thats what I was gonna say
Grass
Grass Yıl önce
😂
Geovanny Ortiz
Geovanny Ortiz 2 yıl önce
DaTs rAsTiST
Joanne A
Joanne A 2 yıl önce
Lol my mind kinda autofilled it this exact same way
theroyalkermit
theroyalkermit 2 yıl önce
Derry**
Jaron 1990
Jaron 1990 2 yıl önce
Emma Walker it is kinda racist but it’s a joke and wasn’t that racist
Anaayah Khandelwal
Anaayah Khandelwal 2 yıl önce
You have done it...you have explained the end...you should get a noble prize for this you really should
Ellis
Ellis 2 yıl önce
Eddie and Richie are MADE for eachother and it shows :’)
Aqkslsoszn
Aqkslsoszn 2 yıl önce
I literally never thought of eddie being richies token im gonna cry 😭😭😭😭
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