@Berenice C. what u do mean? She didn't fuck him up. She was a child. Ur acting like she kicked his ass or something. He decided to let her go. She's alive today because of that choice he made pure and simple. Maybe deep down he was ready tobgwt caught but didn't have the courage to turn himself in. But don't say this child fucked him up because she did nothing. Had he decided to kill her too there's nothing she could have done to stop it. His choice is why she is alive plain and simple. But I get u ppl need to believe that something greater was at play. Need something to root for.

@nekisha rushing god had nothing to do with it.

@nekisha rushing if your “God” is so great, why did he create predators and murderers?

@alex hernandez given by who?

@HaloJumpmaster the killer I got away from in 1979also confessed to me that he harmed a boy I told that to the detectives. I bet there's dead bodies in the mountains. Nothing was ever done about it .

@Monique Hoyt yep. Because they all witnessed him making an absolute fool of himself trying to ride a motorcycle without ever learning how and his ego was the sole reason all four of those people died. He can rot I. Hell too.

@HaloJumpmaster I remember that Todd also killed her boyfriend and buried in his yard. He killed 4 people in a motorcycle shop also.

@Monique Hoyt a similar incident happened to a young lady named Kayla Brown that was abducted by a serial killer named Todd Kohlhepp. She pretended to be his girlfriend in captivity to ensure her survival. She knew compliance was her only option and luckily after two months she was found handcuffed inside a storage container. She did what she had to do to survive.

@Bubaiel spelled not spelt

He should be put behind bars... For this demeanor....... Victim statement is just upfront accepted than evidence is added along with it. It doesn't matter if it's superficial or not.... Just accept n then add evidence everything will unfold....

@Sawyer Mckey nope he got promoted to top detective and won an honorary badge

I’m so s

Believe me

there is a movie about it

the movie, it sad because it’s a true story but it’s so amazing. the way she was able to put her feelings aside and do everything she did is amazing. she’s definitely an inspiration

@lauren Ewen thanks so much 🙏🏻

There is a movie or series called “believe me” it is about her story but it’s put into a script, I cried but it’s so so good but very graphic at times and tells the whole story how she wishes to tell it.

Any therapist knows traumatic events are recounted with " flat affect". They are number to allow them to talk about it without reliving the trauma. Come on people! It's the ones who cry and scream who are probably lieing

The hurtful ignorance of those we ask to bear witness is extremely difficult. What some people don't seem to understand is that often we have to emotionally distance ourselves from the trauma in order to talk about it at all. For me, if I allow myself to feel anything I would not be able to speak clearly enough to be understood ☹

This!!! Monitoring someone’s trauma reactions instead of monitoring the abusive behavior exposes that person as an accomplice

After like changing 5 doctors and years of meds and therapy I found the way to deal with depression is self motivation , mediation long hours , and self counselling, and deep spirituality.

I am so sorry for that 💖 God bless you

love when they’re proven wrong tho like in this case its awful that they dont believe you but when the baby comes out not even 10 minutes later they probably rethink next time someone doesnt seem like they’re in labour yk

Same ☺️

When I got impaled in my thigh with a rebar when I was a kid my school bus driver told me that it's not that bad because it's not bleeding and you are not crying. The rebar was 4cm deep in my thigh.

I was told that too. Lol I have high tolerance of pain and I'm not the type of person to be loud and behave certain way.

You can do it too. Pain is temporary. Retribution is forever.

I was confronted by a "nemesis" i had behind my local convenience store. prepared for a fight, he had a knife....he was, or is a bigger dude, so dodging was fairly easy. he got winded and went back to his truck and left, since I was dodging toward the front, into public. when i got home, still kind of confused about how oddly calm and serene the whole ordeal was, told my GF and Mother...and was perplexed when they both just like, nodded like they were in a hurry and kept goin about un-interested....untill some months later when they both heard it from a random witness, and also the dude himself....and started in on me for not telling them, and then when reminded, not making it sound more urgent. weird part is he got me once in the arm, didnt break skin but left a nice black dot and a bruise that covered my entire shoulder. And doctors too, about anything at all... They never react as they should, until tests or blood or whatever, turns out the whole "remaining calm" tip should be followed by "but not TOO calm"

Happened to Lindy Chamberlain when the dingo took little Azaria too.

I don't give a damn when others don't believe! It isn't their approval that my life is all about

I had to escape my abuser and ended up being abused in a shelter and almost trafficked out of some because KCPD is a trafficking front and they just label their victims as schizophrenic so they have ‘permission’ to abuse us and take away our human rights and justify our torture, essentially. These people are nasty and I have so much respect for people going into the job to ACTUALLY do a good job in these cases, not be evil and help the predator.

What pisses me off is knowing that if she DID come in distressed, they would brush her off as crazy and hallucinatory. Sexual predators don’t need to be given a badge and allowed to abuse survivors and encourage every survivor to stay quiet. People that deny it need to be held legally accountable as an accomplice, not fucking promoted.

Oh yeah well

@Susana Ramirez yesss Yahweh 👏

Thank you for sharing this 🙏🏽 May the strength of the Lord God be with you now and forever!!

It’s a lifelong trauma. Something similar happened to me to as a child. You must forgive the person that did it. You don’t have to tell that person you forgive them. And say the Following prayer out loud: In the name of Jesus and by the anointing of His resurrection. The Spirit of God lives in me and is the same spirit that resurrected Jesus from the Dead. I am a child of God and I am anointed by Jesus, I’m anointed by Jesus, I’m anointed by Jesus. No evil or Demon can be in my body. I Rebuke the spirit of Trauma and sexual abuse off of me in the name of Jesus, you must get off me now in the name of Jesus. We rebuke the spirit of lust off of me in the name of Jesus. I’m healed in the name of Jesus, amen 🙏 Whenever your mind reminds you of that molestation do the following prayer: In the name of Jesus, negative thoughts, you got to go, I evict you, you have no place in my mind, in my inner thoughts, in the name of Jesus Christ, I bind this devil, I break it, I destroy it, I dismantle it. I command it to leave right now. Whatever contract you had in my mind, whatever agreement I came in with, conscious or unconsciously, I break it, I destroy it and I renounce it in the name of Jesus. I put God goodness in it, I put God thoughts in it, God’s Mercy and Grace in my thinking, in my doing. God holds my tomorrow because He is already there, in Jesus name, Amen Pray it as often as you need it to help you forget that happened to you. It happened to be for so many years as a little girl till my early teens. I would think of that so often. I’m free because Jesus set me free. I want you to be free. Psychologist don’t help. Dear Lord Jesus, I accept you as my Lord and Savior and come live inside me, in Jesus name Amen 🙏

Thank you. Yes we do. This new fashion of being a victim forever doesn't help anyone.

@glowing unknown I fundamentally disagree with the Panglossian assertion that no laws or prisons would magically cure criminogenic behaviour. Whilst you could indeed, argue that many “crimes” are socially constructed a society built with no consequences for deviant behaviour would descend into vigilantism and chaos. The “system” and the ruling “elite” are inherently culpable and concomitant for many crimes but we must change that through reform and an accountable political infrastructure. Socio-economic disparity is one of the key indicators of low level crime but as I stated in the original debate which was about “change” certain excessively violent offenders cannot function in society without visiting great harm onto others. True psychopathy is a complex mixture of nature vs nurture. There has been many many cases of convicted murderers gaining their freedom only to fall to the spectre of recidivism. Ultimately we must protect innocent people from predatory practices.

@Dr Baptiste - I purposely ignored the 'white collar crime' because it wasn't relevant here. But in regard to that A) it involves far fewer perpetuators than low-class crimes, and, B) These crimes are actually perfectly "normal" in the context of capitalist society. That is, the very incentive of the market is in taking advantage of others & the environment/exploitation for the sake of profit. In other words, corruption is the *basis* of the market, not a outlier behavior. There is no such thing as "greed" within the bounds of what is promoted to "get ahead". Self-maximization, whether it be labor abuses or lobbying or pyramid schemes or other unethical conducts are the logical outcome of what is required of players in order to stay competitive. It's astounding that society continues to ignore this obvious fact and only attack the most egregious examples (Enron, Holmes, etc.). Every single one of us supports an inherently crooked system by default of our actions. The only difference is the degree with which we participate, with the "successful" generally being worst offenders, since artificial scarcity & competition make it a zero-sum game. ....So yeah, enough of that tirade. Once again, this level of crime is exactly the same as low level rapists & murderers ...... they are a symptom of an old, narrowly-focused system that puts all the focus on individuals over larger order conditions. Hence, we blame certain people or groups for inevitable structural flaws. No laws or prisons will cure these cases. And like you pointed out, government equally won't fix it .... because government is merely an extension of the business enterprise/elite class due to the natural imbalance and incentives created.

​@Dr Baptiste - I recommend Dr. James Gilligan's books "Violence: Our Deadly Epidemic and It's Causes" and "Preventing Violence". He's a Harvard PhD who's spent 25+ years studying inmates in a max security prison in Boston. He knows firsthand how violent men are created and how they think. These men (and sometimes women) are the most abused and neglected people in our society. And he says that in every case the main trigger comes down to *shame* (which he also defines as 'lack of love'). They are emotionally deadened to the world due to their tragic histories and they seek violence on others in an attempt to feel some kind of emotion again (even though emotion rarely comes). ........ I'm not saying these predatory men are going to be instantly cured in some miraculous way by how we treat them, but that society needs to start seeing these individuals as broken humans that *can* be fixed with the right understandings -- that is, if we want to prevent future acts of harm; a.k.a solve problems. Elsewise, we can pretend that they're completely isolated bubbles acting purely on their own accord, as the mainstream generally does, -- despite all of the behavioral science to the contrary -- and let the patterns play out exactly as they are now, with our "justice" (revenge) system "punishing" them AFTER they predictably act out. And prisons are only a school for crime, bringing about worse outcomes over time. Any astute judge knows very well that prisons are the worst scenario they can prescribe for a "criminal" and thus they try to avoid that sentencing if possible. Unfortunately, the legal system runs completely counter to modern understandings - something which is unlikely to change soon since it's also a highly lucrative field $$$ raking in billions. "Problems create profit". * a good indicator of how our distorted culture creates violence is to recognize that the vast lion's share of it occurs within the poor class (same as does nearly all crime; and in fact laws are directly aimed at the poor for this reason). You'll practically never see a rich man randomly attack a woman on the streets or shoot up a mall. Not only is "poverty the worst form of violence", it's the main cause of the other acts of violence. Take for instance child predators. Most come from poor households with alcoholic parents. It doesn't mean alleviating poverty will reduce every incident of child abuse, but it's certainly the best place to start. The original victims are those with a broken past. ** yes, there are examples of true "monsters" out there; a.k.a. psychopaths like Ted Bundy. But these are rare exceptions (outside the bell curve) which science has yet to understand. It does not justify ignoring the majority of cases with traceable causes & treatments.

It’s sad, I’m a 50-year-old man and have been married 30 years but sex has never been that important. especially not important enough to destroy someone’s life.

@Grace what's the part you don't get I didn't give him credit for anything that's why it's the universe working it's ways, not him. And I'm not trying to act big brain it's the first thing I thought of, but then y'all went on and on about it.. so i responded. And yes I will take your comment as calling me intelligent thank you

@ana rup No, not because nothing band's happened to you. If that were true, how do you know you freeze in dangerous situations?! Flee, fight, or freeze: the three in-born ways of reacting to danger. Yours happens to be freeze, and once you know this, you can consciously override it. Not easy, but doable.

Seriously

I'm so sorry it happened to you. You're a survivor,not a victim anymore. You are not defeated,not ever. Move forward sister and live! You are not alone ❤️

Hope your still going strong

This guy is who elliot rodger and many incels wish to be.

Stay strong

It's horrid of them to thumbs down this video showing the hardships and abuse of Lisa.

@zalfany Ohh thank youuu

@John Doe there’s a google chrome extension for it :)

How do you see thumbs down?

@michael onyeka 💯 Exactly!

CHILLS

My heart breaks for these women and the other young women who lost their lives at his hands. What incredible strength. They have been through so much. 😪💔

Love really can conquer hate when the stars are all lined up.

May God give you the strength to pull through.

Read The Word

It takes time, and therapy. Her therapy is her job I guess. Try to find help.

You are strong too, it's just that people cope differently with trauma. Allow yourself that space to heal, it can take a lot of time.

@Maya Men didn't decide how women should act. women just figured out that if they behave a certain way they'll never find a man

@summer you're saying men accusing women of lying is somehow worse than women lying about sexual abuse?? Are you gaslighting me?

Yeah, what the actual heck?! We are different and of course everyone would act a certain way if they deal with abuse! That doesn't mean we should suspect that they are lying and not believe them. The police sometimes makes me sick.

He probably got his. You reap what you sow.

Yeah I wonder what he got

@Cathy Butcher sad but true

It’s a lifelong trauma. Something similar happened to me to as a child. You must forgive the person that did it. You don’t have to tell that person you forgive them. And say the Following prayer out loud: In the name of Jesus and by the anointing of His resurrection. The Spirit of God lives in me and is the same spirit that resurrected Jesus from the Dead. I am a child of God and I am anointed by Jesus, I’m anointed by Jesus, I’m anointed by Jesus. No evil or Demon can be in my body. I Rebuke the spirit of Trauma and sexual abuse off of me in the name of Jesus, you must get off me now in the name of Jesus. We rebuke the spirit of lust off of me in the name of Jesus. I’m healed in the name of Jesus, amen 🙏 Whenever your mind reminds you of that molestation do the following prayer: In the name of Jesus, negative thoughts, you got to go, I evict you, you have no place in my mind, in my inner thoughts, in the name of Jesus Christ, I bind this devil, I break it, I destroy it, I dismantle it. I command it to leave right now. Whatever contract you had in my mind, whatever agreement I came in with, conscious or unconsciously, I break it, I destroy it and I renounce it in the name of Jesus. I put God goodness in it, I put God thoughts in it, God’s Mercy and Grace in my thinking, in my doing. God holds my tomorrow because He is already there, in Jesus name, Amen Pray it as often as you need it to help you forget that happened to you. It happened to be for so many years as a little girl till my early teens. I would think of that so often. I’m free because Jesus set me free. I want you to be free. Psychologist don’t help. Dear Lord Jesus, I accept you as my Lord and Savior and come live inside me, in Jesus name Amen 🙏

@Annie Romero I knew a girl with a methhead mother and grandmother, until she got away it was tragic

Its just horrible how you all got treated by the ones you where going in the need of help. I hope for all the victems that still need that and the people next to them that trying to help get the right care.

@Sempiternel Desiderata Being by her side. You don't need to always speak. Sometimes just showing you are willing to be around is enough. (From my own experience as a survivor of mental and physical abuse from my mother in mh childhood and rape from a stranger later on) A harder one that not everyone can do as easily would be removing toxic people from her life. I have completely cut off my parents. Its been about 4 years now since I last spoke or saw them. It's been better on me both mentally and physically (I was daignosed at 19 with PTSD and BPD in the pysch ward I stayed) I have bad waves of depression every now and then where I don't want people around or to talk to me. My husband and best friends understand but stay within reach. Many times they send a text saying they thought of me and to say they love me. My daughter can sometimes just sense it (I truly believe when people say kids are very sensitive to parents emotions) and she'll come over and just give me a hug or kiss and go back to playing. Or we'll cuddle and watch a movie. Sometimes I can be more honest with my daughter about how I'm feeling then with anyone else (she's 7 now). For example, I'll tell her I feel down because someone said something that hurt my feelings and she'll just look at me and say something like that's ok because she doesn't believe them. She may not know big words but she shows she's trying to understand. The whole reason I didn't end my life on my final suicide attempt at 19 was because I got pregnant with her. She was my only lifeline then. Now I got my husband, 2 kids, and baby on the way. I can't do that to them. Sorry I ranted but just couldn't give you a few words without explaining how they helpeed me. I know your mother and I aren't the same so some of the advice might not work. Just know you asking and caring enough to try is the best thing you could do for her. I can tell you love her very much.

I've been raped and none of my family believed me. I have a mental illness so I was told by two family members that I was lying and another one that I must have been delusional. It was excruciating. 😥😭

Jesus, I’m so fucking sorry. I just want to say I believe you, and you know the truth, you know you’re not lying. I believe you. I hope karma comes for them all.

And be one of many women - and men - who can change the system from within.

@Donov Zeek I think one of the main things is that male perpetrators are more common than female perpetrators and a lot of times right after someone has been sa they don’t want the same gender as the perpetrators especially if the victim is a child so therefor female officers are important.

@70R¥ Molested not raped though idk if it counts. Family was included, though never revealed it. Don't want to either because I have forgiven my abusers. One of them is still toxic, but I was and still am quite numb so i can't bring myself to care. It happened from when i was 4 upto 12. I remember feeling dislocated and just overall scared. I didn't have anyone to turn to, and my mother was facing her own battles. I didn't want to cause I divorce so I held on. I became completely numb. To both the molestations and bullying. Abuse didn't bother me. Though i think back to the early ages alone at night. i remember being scared of men. I was very shy.. for reasons that my comment has made obvious. I'm not sympathetic to myself, I partially don't care. But somehow 4-5 year old me seems like a different person. I sympathise with her, and wish I could off protected her. I know everything she felt back then, and for sure I know I wouldn't feel comfortable around a man interrogating me about my case with a man as the abuser. Kid's aren't moral, they learn from experience. I'm never biased, since my past made me quite stable and maybe numb to some extent. So this is purely based on my knowledge. I don't resent men, I don't resent people in general. I just don't wanna get myself associated with anyone again. Humans are such vague creatures. They let their emotions guide them a bit too much, sensitive, and yet hypocritical. Just a basic statement to see, and such a basic thing to understand, such a clear opinion, yet look at the amount of people debating over it.

And policemen

She is a Boss👏👏👏👏

A very disturbing case of everything happens for a reason. How many lives were saved by her, and what she had to go through to be able to survive all of it.

@ShayniBC exactly and what gets me is some of the ones defending her have been abused themselves. If that's the case, they should be able to see right through her lies. She's a gaslighter and manipulator and we've been through it and can see the truth. Heck, even people that haven't been through it can see her lies but oh well, I guess we'll always have people that think automatically she was abused because she's female. Thanks for being so kind as well and I wish you the best

@🌸Corrie🌸 All the best to you as well. I agree this wasn't the time or the comment thread to do it in, but I do believe that when people are trying to defend abusers it needs addressed. I hope you have a wonderful day.

@ShayniBC I agree with you and also sympathize because I too have been through a shit ton of abuse, wether it be sexual, domestic, or emotional since I was a young child and this is why I'm replying to you because you get it when it comes to the Johnny Depp case, just like the others that saw through Turds lies. I wasn't going to talk about it because it doesn't have anything to do with the case discussed in this video but because so many have spoken about it, I felt it was time to say I agree with all who were behind Johnny Depp. All the best to you my dear

@GG yes, not just the states either unfortunately. It's pretty sad imo

You're so strong Im so sorry for what happened to you and I really admire how you chose to live with your trauma

Amazing

I noticed that too Nd wondered how much Tree of life jewelry or even wood jewelry she wears in honor of her ordeal.

also about her earings..it's not just any tree, it's the tree of LIFE

Wow

@Nico Greco 🥹 That means a whole lot, I can’t begin to express my gratitude for you taking the time to comment back and gifting me those kind words. As corny as I may sound, it feels like a hug from above. God bless you, have a beautiful weekend and life🙏❤️

@Autumn well then you're using it wrong. It literally means "legally true". The other meaning is "very good". Well what's so good about shi* on bed? 🤣 And it's legally true only if you saw that first hand, like saw Amber putting it on the bed.

@Richa I saw legit in almost every conversation doesn’t mean I emotionally serious and saying I’ve seen it first hand. 🤷🏽‍♀️

Exactly. They’re so dumb, like the human brain is made for survival. We go through a lot and still manage to somehow deal with it and continue with our lives. I am a victim of sexual abuse and nobody would be able to tell that I’ve been through it without me telling them.

@chai momma shot by who?? Damn

@Dick Diamonds Son, I would tell you to stop assuming and actually do some research to discover what Qualified Immunity is (it's not even close tom what you eluded). But it seems you've already made your mind up about it.....so, carry own ;)

@cecilia So you are saying acab to Officer Lisa McVey? For shame, GTFOH!

Incredible

True

Yes very disappointing

@Jessica Aitken really?

@Jessica Aitken not all. Some do not have her strength, and that's ok. We are not all the same. Women, like men, are individuals who have strengths and weaknesses. And not all are smart.

All women are strong and smart wtf

@【ノワル】иοιя Hope you're doing fine! Stay strong 🤙

@Sacha what's the movie called

True!!

I can only imagine how perfect of a human being you must be to be expecting cops to behave as if they had a crystal ball. 🔮 This little girl was so extraordinary that she didn’t even act like a victim. Instead of putting down someone for having a healthy amount of skepticism to allocate resources efficiently, you should be admiring how incredibly strong this little was that not only did cops couldn’t see her as a victim at first, BUT-she even got her rapist to not want to kill her like he had done to others! I assure you that if most victims of rape and kidnap had her demeanor, they would have believed her much sooner. Anyway, the great thing is that she was her own savior and the cops DID help her get the guy and put it where he belongs.

"Believe me" This is the name of the movie.