An absolutely fantastic, direct and awesome breakdown of a this situation by Mr. Holloway! Thank for taking the time to break down a difficult subject.

Great show on such a delicate subject. I’m with Dan on this 💯 🇺🇸

Dan coming in with one of the most rational and straightforward breakdowns of this issue. Well done drinking Bros for getting right when so many others are just repeating talking points

Dan connecting the problem with father absence and post-modernist nihilism is spot the fuck on. This is the conversation we need to be having, not some heavy-handed performative political theater to gain votes. Thank you guys for having a nuanced take on this.

If it wasn’t for people like Dan this entire country would be fucked. Please keep educating people on the shit that actually matters. Freedom has to be FIRST PERIOD. Without that nothing else matters. Stop giving away our rights to people who want to use them against us. You have to take the good with the bad and figure out solutions to the problems we face together as a country.

I live 40 minutes from where this happened. This, obviously hit so close to home and I mean it was really hurtful to see and listen to this as my wife is a teacher in our town. Thanks for this.

Definitely the best pod cast y’all have done. Dan is fucking on the money. God bless y’all and I know you don’t want it but we need him (Dan)as a leader in this once great nation.

I was thinking the exact thing about ex military posted at schools we could pay all of them for 50 years at least with that 56 billion we sent to Ukraine for no fucking reason. Thank you boys I'm appreciative that you all do this every week!!!!

Great Job on this Dan! Pretty much spot on, on everything!!Love you Ross, and I know you have a 1000 Hollywood friends screaming in your ears, but 2A is nothing to bend on or take lightly without massive consideration! Good Job on this though guys!

The part where he said something like "what 10 kids die instead of 19?" when arguing against AR controls. Uhhhhhhh yeah dude. That would be good. I would trade 9 kids lives for your hobby any day, don't care if you don't like it. Y'all need to admit you are fighting for a hobby, stop pretending this is anything more than that with your tactical pants and chest rigs. Sh*t is embarrassing.

Great conversation on a tough subject. Appreciate the straight talk.

You fellas have earned additional respect from me as a result of this cogent discussion

Thank you for having a brain and using it Mr. Holloway.

Wow I'm so glad I'm stumbled upon this conversation... good questions and brake down of the possible logic behind the mentality of an active shooter...I don't see why it's not being discussed in this manner by our leaders... we can all keep saying that we need to do something about it...but we need throw in suggestions....mine is I agree for 21 minimum age requirement...at the end it's thw foundation of the human being

It's the first time I watch you. You're fantastic. I fully agree. This shooting looks very suspect. What do you think?

Dan hit all the key points, great show.

Good convo on a solem day. I am an ultra advocate for hardening schools. From a cost benefit standpoint it is the best solution in my opinion. No constitutional rights or gun laws need changed with school hardening. Danthony, you made an important point about school hardening today though. Like you said, hardening will only work if the skill level of the protectors will allow rounds to come on target with precision in 1-3 seconds. The protectors will need skill sets comesurate with those of combat vets or swat level law enforcement. They will also need compensated as such (65-70k starting with full benefits and pension to get the talent). I hope the drip, drip, drip, of the rumor mill saying the police were grabbing their own kids out of the school first while not being able to eliminate the gunman are bogus. It's time to stop making the school resource officer position the "pre retirement" slot on the force. It's also time to stop offshoring billions of tax payer dollars to foreign countries and start spending that money here, protecting our kids in our schools. Legislation can't effectively fix a broken family. Legislation can't effectively fix mental illness. Legislation can direct dollars to a security solution that can keep our kids safe while we work on the aforementioned real root causes of the problem though.

Thank you Dan. People (like Ross) need to not speak or have an opinion on something they have no knowledge of.

Kinda figured Dan would have a good perspective on this event, wasn’t disappointed

I think a lot of it is everyone of these shooters seems to be on some type of med that the side effects are suicidal and homicidal thoughts and tendencies. Are we finding out if they are on any of these medications?

Funny everyone just focuses on the gun laws. Or the actual “thing” that does the killing. That’s surface level. What about beyond that, which boils down to mental health and opening back up psych hospitals where a lot of these people belong. Most of these active shooters have plenty of interaction with law enforcement and hospitals beforehand. I can probably guarantee it, except no one wanted to deal with them so they kick them back out.

You know what's even more intellectually lazy? Deciding that a corrective measure needs to completely eradicate violence to be considered

I hope those details of him lining them up and asking them if they are ready to die prove true. Because if not that is some messed up shit to put out there.

Dan, Texas has a multiple long gun form that will be filled by the store. It is sent to local SO and state police.

On high capacity magazines, it's a silly argument. So instead of a "high capacity" magazine I only have 10 round mags. It takes a half second to reload mags. There have been plenty of mass shootings done with 10 round mags. It's a non factor

Protect your kids. Home school them. K12 is a great homeschool program

I liked the question about what should we do with the existing information we have about all the similarities between these shooters? Could we intervene preemptively? The problem is it isn't even a needle in a haystack, it's a needle in a needle stack. How many kids have all these factors in life, but don't act out?

My biggest question is how does a kid with no job afford a Daniel Defense AR-15, 60 mags and all that ammo ? Not to mention the F250

16:00 Give and Take...... who is giving up (GUN OWNERS) who is always taking (the anti gun owners) SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED Currently infringed over 300 times Federally and over 20,000 times state to state. How many gun laws have been removed that had no effect....

So training teachers will firearms wouldn't have stopped this ? Absolutely would be beneficial

One thing that really doesn't make sense is the ability for civilians to get bulletproof armor. That in itself is a major risk for police officers dealing with these kind of crazy people. The buffalo shooter was shot a couple times by Aaron Salter Jr and the armor allowed him to keep going

There are other issues with the "universal background check". One is, like they typically do, they make this innocuous, "common sense" sounding bills, then they add all kinds of unacceptable shit to it, but nobody talks about that. Like fathers not being able to give a son, or brother to brother etc. I agree there should be consequences for giving a gun to a shitty person, like if your son is a crackhead and has a history of irresponsible gun ownership, and then he commits a crime, with a gun you gave him. The other issue is states and the Feds do not enter info reliably to the system to prevent prohibited people from getting guns, with a BG check. The Airforce vet was for all purposes a felon, for his military convictions, The AF never entered the info. I can't even count how many times, when I worked at a gun shop, we'd get a call from DOJ, 'hey uh did you let so and so pick up whatever gun (from several months ago)? Me, 'yeah he did his BG, waited his 15 or 10 days (this was in CA), passed it, according to you guys'. Them, oh well he shouldn't have had it, can you have him come in and surrender it? Me, click.

It all starts at home. The core of our society is rotten and we are seeing the effects. Sad fucking event man.

Always appreciate Dan's ability to have a nuanced look on things.

I seen a picture of the shooter in a dress I hope the media dose not miss gender him or anything

Is it true that the officers stood outside while the monster gunned down children? It took them 40 minutes to engage him? Parents had to beg them to engage the monster as they listened to the slaughter helplessly? I hope these reports aren’t true, but if they are… The cowards carrying badges should be lined up in front of a firing squad as accomplishes.

What if they stop the manufacturing of the ammunition to the guns already in the population??

The only thing that can stop a bad guy with a gun is a trained good guy with a gun.

The registered guns are probably NFA items

Hi, this is Marty McFly remembering the future! Let me tell you, there is no need to worry: Thank god, Conservative-White-Fundamentalist-Christian-Red-Neck-Americans (CWFCRNAs, as shown in this piece of illustrative material) are a dying breed. Currently, with their backs slowly turning towards the wall, they are on the edge of becoming a minority in "their own country", which they unlawfully and violently took from the Native Americans. But sensing this gradual loss makes them grim and angry. Yes, they are angry! Just have look at the CWFCRNA alpha male called Dan. He is so angry, he often can't find words for the ultimate thruths he want's to express. Watch how Dan needs to deeply inhale the moldy but apparently soothing air in that studio, everytime he begins with one of his apodictic statements. No, it's not the ususal slow mind of a CWFCRNA, he is really angry! Gosh is he angry; like a beast caught in a trap! Well, in one or two generations CWFCRNA like Dan and Ross will be a mere bigot lunatic fringe group, with kids being ashamed of their parents and their wives divorcing them upon their relentless hubris, which fails to have a practical use. Down another generation, you will only find such individuals locked away from public in mental homes, because they got too angry and desperate when the NRA got declared illegal and US-legislation finally got rid of the antique 2nd amendment.... So let me get back to the future, because the odor of CWFCRNAs is nothing I prefer! And, like I already mentioned, back in my time the public air is CWFCRNA free, because Biff and his moronic friends got locked away! Y'all take care! Marty

Yeah me to Dan is right on

Did the shooter had that fatherless problem?

How do you use an AR-15 lawfully? Like what do you even use it for? Just to shoot it in the woods or something?

The shooter WASN’T A CRIMINAL. You’re opinion is based on facts that don’t apply to this situation. This isn’t about gang violence or video games. It’s about access to weapons that are meant for military and law enforcement. He OUTGUNNED THE POLICE. They were pinned down and couldn’t move in. He was better equipped to fight than the police, that’s a problem. If he had a handgun only, he would have been outgunned and not able to kill 21. You folks are pushing BS in order to live a life that allows you to have no gun restrictions. You’re idea of solutions is to arm more people, like teachers? You’re the coward.

Where did you hear he lined them up and shot them?

Wtf would a wait period do.

Oh yes. Everything is the problem exept the guns, which are obviously the solution. More guns should do it next year.

Satellite police offices in every school. Problem solved.

How did he ask every single American an opinion on this? All stats are shit

Where is Dakota ???

15:12 Chwenty Chwenty-one

18 year olds are not adults anymore. At least the vast majority of them. Raising the legal age to buy a firearm (or subset of firearms) to 21, I think would help a lot. The same case can be made for voting.

KERR is right something needs to be done,but he sounds like a Democrat and blames guns & Republicans for the murders

Full crap everyone is responsible for them self

I also think some of these video games young kids are playing desensitize in there minds what actual violence is versus the reality of actual violence.

Put ARs on the NFA and take suppressors off

We just need sensible gun laws. This is what happens when there are millions in this country with undiagnosed mental health issues, a horrible health care system and easy access to firearms.