Forget everything you think you know about the Martini-Henry Rifle

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4 aylar önce

Today I am joined by Neil Aspinshaw - collector and expert on the Martini-Henry Rifle
He is the author of a wonderful book about it that can be found here - martini-henry-society.myshopi...
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@johnnybeer3770 3 aylar önce
About 25 years ago I was visiting the museum in Brecon and being the only visitor there , got into conversation with the curator. He took me in the back and allowed me to hold one of the Martini -Henrys they have ,complete with bayonet that was used in the Zulu wars . He put a Pith helmet on my head for good measure . 🇬🇧
@captainchaos3053 Aylar önce
Lucky sodd
@EdWallitt 4 aylar önce
I’ve had the honour of firing one of these majestic things. Couple of observations 1) the recoil is astonishing and you definitely get a light bruise after a few rounds 2) it is so easy to operate and doesn’t take long to get very good at rapid fire 3) the accuracy is much better than you would expect 4) the rounds make a seriously big hole! Would not like to be on the end of one of these. Thanks for the fantastic interview. I shall be at the exhibition tomorrow. Will pop over and say hello if I see you.
@redcoathistory 4 aylar önce
Nice! I’d like to fire one eventually. Yes please come and say hello.
@Old_8_gauge 4 aylar önce
I have read wounds were 95% fatal no matter where it hit you due to shock & blood loss. I personally never minded the recoil, bit that's just me.
@keithagn 4 aylar önce
Lucky dog!
@Nooziterp1 4 aylar önce
It was a typical British small arm of the period. A big heavy bullet designed for maximum stopping power. The revolvers were the same, albeit at much shorter ranges.
@howardg7162 4 aylar önce
I had the pleasure of handling one, and the paper cartridge The man who owned it said he took a mose with it
@will-i-am-not 4 aylar önce
If you read the reports following the battle at Rorks Drift, the men fired so many cartridges that both shoulders were so badly bruised from the recoils, they ended up firing from the waist
@alowens7748 4 aylar önce
I’ve fired mine lots of times. I can confirm it’s accuracy. I reload the 450x577 round in both black power and smokeless versions. Guess which is most fun.
@ricardoM113 4 aylar önce
​@@alowens7748No te parece que si recargas con polvora sin humo que ademas es de alta velocidad puede reventar la recamara. Originalmente el cartucho 577 usaba polvora negra y su proyectil 450 era de 480 grains saliendo en la boca a 274 metros por segundo. Para la epoca fue un muy buen fusil. Saludos desde URUGUAY donde en el Museo Militar existe UN SOLO ejemplar de la primera denominacion como Martini Peabody.
@TimDutch 3 aylar önce
@@ricardoM113 Never load black powder weapons with smokeless powder. The barrel will not be able to handle the extra pressure
@artemusp.folgelmeyer4821 3 aylar önce
Just load reduced charges and you will be fine. Many do this with the 1873 Springfield .45-70, and I see no problem doing the same with the British cartridge. It's only a matter of not exceeding the rated pressure of the black powder load. @@TimDutch
@reddevilparatrooper 2 aylar önce
Outstanding presentation!!! 👍👍I'm here in the US and enjoying this. In 1876 Custer's 7th Cavalry Last Stand at Little Bighorn had the same problem of cartridges would be stuck in the chambers. Cavalry troopers had to pry the cartridges with pocket knives. The US Army 45-70 were made out of copper in the early 1870s. After Custer's 7th Cavalry disaster the US Army began using brass cases instead of copper.
@redcoathistory 2 aylar önce
Thanks a lot. I’m thinking of making a film about Custer at some point 👍🏼
@peterhoughton3770 2 aylar önce
Great video mate, thankyou - this guy really knows his stuff. In cadets at school in the 1980s in Australia we still had the .310 cadet martini. We used to love firing the lever action coz it reminded us of winchesters in the wild west, despite the single shot. But I went to a friend of my dad's when I was about 12 who lived on a farm and he had the real thing - a colonial weapon that had been in police service. I was scared of it and instead of leaning into the shot I was sort of holding it out nervously. It pounded my shoulder knocking me over and ended up behind me. The adults all got angry coz it was an antique... no-one seemed to care about my shoulder!
@klintkaos 2 aylar önce
1970s my uncle had one of those .310 ,it was my step up from a bsa model 1 .22
@scoutdogfsr 4 aylar önce
I have a fine pair of 1889's. I purchased these around 2010 when a few thousand came into the US. They were in much neglected condition. Both having a thick cake of cosmoline and hard set dust. They cleaned up beautifully and are some of my most prized pieces in my collection. True machinists works of art!
@klackon1 4 aylar önce
It's the size of the round that makes me smile. I used to shoot in competitions when I served in the British Army, and we shot our SLRs out to 600 metres using iron sights. It wasn't easy and the targets were about 1m x 1m. I also used to shoot a Number 4 Mark 1 Lee Enfield out to 300 metres using the micrometer sight - a far easier task. To think that British squaddies were firing a rifle with a black powder cartridge, which was accurate out to 500 metres in the late 19th century, is quite amazing.
@alneal100 3 aylar önce
I have several.303 Lee Enfields, including a No5 Jungle carbine. Do you know how the Martini-Henry compares, in terms of recoil?
@TomasFunes-rt8rd 3 aylar önce
I got far more recoil out of the MH, although I only ever fired 4 shots from it and probably 10 from the mighty 303. @@alneal100
@artemusp.folgelmeyer4821 3 aylar önce
Both are accurate. The trajectory of the .303 is far "flatter" than the MH load which makes it easier to get hits at extended ranges. The U.S. Army conducted tests of the .45-70 to 2000 yrds which yielded satisfactory results. However, if you are off by 50 yards at 1000 yards, you will miss a man sized target due to the severe trajectory. Massed infrantry fire was the objective. British rifle fire was thought to be machine gun fire by the Germans at the receiving end during the Battle of Mons in 1914 due to it's accuracy.
@nellyprice 3 aylar önce
A whole 90rds a year practice? Perhaps sometimes the tissue with accuracy was not as much the weapon but the users lack of skill (from practice)
@pierremainstone-mitchell8290 4 aylar önce
As a former soldier (Australian Army) I had the experience of handling one of these weapons (though not firing it). In addition I've seen the film 'Zulu" more times than I can count! A very knowledgeable and thorough video! Well done indeed!
@michaelpielorz9283 4 aylar önce
I´ve watched Gallipoli a view times waiting for the moment the ANZACS were slaughtered by churchills brilliant plan
@oldmanriver1955 4 aylar önce
Along with 'Not Worth Dying For' it was an Infantry staple for many years. Seen both almost as often as I have lived, and I'm 67.
@scoutdogfsr 4 aylar önce
@@michaelpielorz9283 I know what you mean. I love every story and movie that covers the fall of the Ottoman empire. Isn't it wonderful when entire ranks of youth are decimated?
@Zionist_Eternal 4 aylar önce
​@oldmanriver1955 I too am a 1955er. So, as from one to another, please help me with "Not Worth Dying For"? All I find when searching is a 2022 made for TV movie, "He's Not Worth Dying For".
@oldmanriver1955 4 aylar önce
@@Zionist_Eternal A British arms and explosives safety film that basically said don't muck around with things that stab, go bang or boom. Compulsory viewing EVERY time you went to camp. Soooo - 3 times per year for 15 yrs.
@gator1959 4 aylar önce
Great interview. I'm fascinated by the mythos surrounding the Martini-Henry rifle. The rifle had such a short service life but most people can recall only a couple of service rifles off the top of theirs head, one would be the Martini-Henry and the other the iconic Lee-Enfield .303 and all it's variants.
@FelixstoweFoamForge 4 aylar önce
Very good video. For what it's worth, my take on Islanwhana is simple; contempt for the enemy and VERY bad deployment. Trying to cover a long front with far far too few weapons. I've not shot an actual Marini-Henry, but I have shot Martini action cadet rifles and found them accurate and easy to use. But ejection of .22 lr could sometimes be an issue. it wasn't' ammunition supply. or hard to open boxes, or stuck cases that lost the day. It was just Chelmsford splitting his forces, bad deployment, AND, and let's not forget this one, sheer bloody bravery on the part of the ZULU.
@michaelshanahan4042 4 aylar önce
I agree 1oo%
@lyndoncmp5751 4 aylar önce
The forces left at the camp, with the addition of Durnford's 250 armed mounted men coming to reinforce, took the rifle strength up to around 1,000. If Durnford had stayed there and acted in unison with Pulleine instead of flouting the orders and charging out to chase after retiring Zulus, obliging Pulleine to support him, then the camp very possibly could have held out with a tighter more compact firing line just in front of the tents. Chelmsford ordered Pulleine to keep his forces drawn in and to act strictly on the defensive. This is exactly what Pulleine did do until Durnford arrived and wanted to send forces out here, there and everywhere.
@MrPossumeyes 4 aylar önce
From my brief dip into South African history Isandalwana (sp?) was a cock-up right at the top of the Brits coupled with martial prowess on the part of the Zulus. Much respect to the Zulus and much sadness to the families of the privates and NCOs who were attending the complete leadership fuckup.
@lyndoncmp5751 4 aylar önce
@@MrPossumeyes Tactically at Isandlwana it was Durnford largely responsible for the blunders.
@MrPossumeyes 4 aylar önce
@@lyndoncmp5751 Cheers, man, and thanks for your response. Appreciated.
@LMARLOWE1972 4 aylar önce
I collected MHs for 25 years. That quite a good collection. And in the early ‘90s, I hunted wild boar in the mountains of western North Carolina with my Mk II. It never failed me.
@chrisjones2224 4 aylar önce
Very interesting, especially as an Ancestor took part in the bayonet charge at Tel el Kebir with a Martini Henry
@BoerChris 4 aylar önce
I have fired both the rifle and the carbine. I found the recoil from the rifle reasonably comfortable, comparable to that of the No. 4 rifle; the recoil from the carbine, on the other hand, is pretty brutal, even with a reduced charge. A very simple and serviceable rifle, and easy to maintain. I found the simplest method to clean it after use was to pour about a pint of hot water down the barrel using a funnel.
@garryedwards3652 4 aylar önce
I have a mark 1 carbine and yes, the recoil is terrible. Most of the rifles used at Rorkes Drift were the standard mark 1, but some were carbines. I read a very good book that said that many of the defenders had broken collar bones after the battle, and the heavy recoil had forced them to fire from both shoulders, often injuring both. I'm a left-handed shooter and can't even mount a gun or rifle from my "wrong" shoulder, and I think it incredible that the defenders managed it. Slightly off-topic, but although the wounded soldiers at Rorkes Drift were taken away for treatment, the rest had to stay there for 3 weeks with no shelter and very little food or water.
@p03saucez 4 aylar önce
Mr. Aspinshaw's book is amazing; especially for firearm nerds like myself. My copy sits on the shelf right next "The Lee Enfield Story" by Ian Skennerton. Imperial British guns are so awesome!
@marcgardiner6278 4 aylar önce
Remember, the ammo box only had ONE screw to undo in order to open the box. There was a wedge shaped lid on the top of the box held in place with 1 large screw.
@Nooziterp1 4 aylar önce
One screw is still a big problem if you don't have a screwdriver.
@1421davidm 4 aylar önce
@@Nooziterp1 You just hit the lid with the rifle butt, the wood cracks and off it comes.
@spike001ton6 4 aylar önce
@@Nooziterp1 yes but for every 5 rifles a combination tool was issued so every corporal sergeant and armory troop would have a combination tool in his kit and they practiced opening ammo boxes for speed as well plus you can smash the box open with rifle butt
@alecblunden8615 4 aylar önce
​@@1421davidmThe battlefield at Ishlandwala is,,in fact, scattered with bent screws which demonstrates this is precisely what happened.
@453421abcdefg12345 4 aylar önce
Hello Neil! Nice to see someone on youtube that knows what he is talking about, we get so many myths on many subjects on youtube that they seem to become facts, I suppose mainly because anyone and his uncle can put their ideas up on youtube without any proof reading, a very enjoyable video, many thanks for posting this one! Chris B.
@danditto6145 4 aylar önce
The foil ammo is easily damaged. My friend Rick and I bought two when I was in high school in Louisiana. Louisiana is extremely hot and humid, it was very hard to get a round stuck and it was not unusual to damage the foil round getting it unstuck. Who knows how dented and out of spec the ammo was in the rifleman’s pouches having been carried all over Africa. Combined with hot breach expansion, this would have been a real problem. The rod being too short would have been a real problem in clearing this design. A heavy bullet case like on the American 45-70 Government cartridge would have protected the specifications of the round and better acted as a heat sink inside of the breach, while aiding in extraction. Literally the difference between victory and defeat probably, when combined with appropriate disposition of troops.
@realhorrorshow8547 4 aylar önce
Interesting to see commentary on the bayonet. One account I've read of Rourke's Drift said that the Zulus were not entirely intimidated by British fire. They were veterans who had been shot at before and knew that rapidly closing the distance meant that the chances of an individual warrior being hit were low. However, what they did not like was trying to climb the barricade with the British behind it with their six-foot spears. I wouldn't have liked it either.
@Marss13z 4 aylar önce
The Zulu also had snipers using rifles, possibly captured from Isandhlwana. The movie Zulu shows this.
@TomasFunes-rt8rd 3 aylar önce
Yes, and they got quite a few hits with them, despite a tradition of poor marksmanship in their army. @@Marss13z
@daanwessels4781 3 aylar önce
@@TomasFunes-rt8rd the poor marksmanship is still evident in the South African National Defence Force. As is the lack of maintenance of equipment, especially vehicles.
@TomasFunes-rt8rd 3 aylar önce
@@daanwessels4781 But standards would have been higher during the years of the Apartheid (the old kind, not the new kind that the world doesn't object to) system, wouldn't they? I still have a wonderful coffee table book from 40 years ago, "The South African War Machine"!
@Phansikhongolza 2 aylar önce
​@@Marss13zZulu Snipers 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@MrPlankinton 4 aylar önce
This fellow never skipped a beat in all his lesson. Brilliant
@alexnorris9233 4 aylar önce
A fascinating incite into the Martini Henry, Chris, Neil’s research for his book has made him a true expert on the weapon. I’ve handled one, when I worked for Glasgow Museums, but never fired one…unfortunately.!
@BadWaterMotors 4 aylar önce
In highschool I was in a reenactment group for the Gordon Highlanders of 1882. Every year we had a shooting competition to earn your rifles patch. I remember one year I pulled the first of 10 shots right into my nose. Tears streaming down my face I sent the next 9 rounds towards the now blurry sillouet. Only 1 round hit around the wrist. One corporal looked at it and said, "Well, he ain't playing the piano anymore." Awesome rifle but it sure could kick.
@TomasFunes-rt8rd 3 aylar önce
Were you guys kitted out to reenact Tel-el-Kebir ?
@BadWaterMotors 3 aylar önce
@@TomasFunes-rt8rd yup!
@TomasFunes-rt8rd 3 aylar önce
Epic !!!! Please let us know here if there's any of that on YT !@@BadWaterMotors
@BadWaterMotors 3 aylar önce
@@TomasFunes-rt8rd there are a few grainy videos floating around but this one has some good volleys and you get the krup and Gatling as well.
@beardo52 4 aylar önce
I bought one some years ago, and had to make my own .577/450 ammunition for it from brass shot shells. It is a joy to shoot, and is still quite accurate.
@Jutte777 4 aylar önce
Yes - I have shot a Martini-Henry. I didn't a problem with the recoil and the weapon was quite accurate. Very solid rifle and simple - that is mainly soldier proof.
@wimsele 4 aylar önce
Fantastic interview! What a well versed and expert guest. Great questions also. Thank you! ❤
@redcoathistory 4 aylar önce
Thanks a lot
@stanboyd5820 4 aylar önce
In the description of the battle of Maiwand in Mercer's novel Red Runs the Helmand he describes how ramrods borrowed from the Sepoy Sneiders (Indian troops were still carrying them at the battle, a throwback to distrust after the Mutiny) were borrowed to clear jams in the British Martini Henrys.
@redcoathistory 4 aylar önce
I’ll have to look up the book. Is it good?
@johnstucchi1609 3 aylar önce
Neil's book is a must-have for any Martini Henry enthusiast, well written, and professionally formatted for enjoyable reading
@Strike_Raid 4 aylar önce
I have fired one, but it was the cabine version. It’s a lot smaller and slimmer than you would expect, it felt a lot like a Winchester 94 to handle. I agree with that guy, it was a surprisingly accurate rifle; I was consistently hitting an iron disk at 100 yards while standing. The brass was turned on a lathe and each one cost $12 and could be reloaded about 6 times (sometimes more, sometimes less), I think they were loaded with Hogden power instead of black powder so it wasn’t very smokey. I don’t remember the recoil being all that heavy, but for it’s size (it is small) I guess it was.
@brianmilthorp6690 2 aylar önce
A friend's dad had one above his fireplace mantle in the 1970s and a hotel lounge in Fort Saint John British Columbia had one converted into a floor lamp. Sadly that one was lost when the hotel burned down in 1980. I have owned several Lee Enfield SMLEs over the years and have loved them.
@terminusest5902 2 aylar önce
A big fan of the Peninsular, Big Nosey, Sharp and Cornwell. Also the US Civil war, US ' Unconditional Surrender Grant', and the few Cornwell books written of the very confusing, war. Following US Grant during the war helps to reduce the confusion. Grant was a very offensive commander. He used the Anaconda plan/strategy and developed the plan to attack on all fronts. This suited the Northern superiority of resources. His first battles were to control the Mississippi River.
@chrishalstead4405 4 aylar önce
Best balanced rifle I ever shot. Gorgeous weapon, but a kick to treat with respect! 😊
@martingenerous1678 3 aylar önce
Came across one at an antique show in New Hampshire USA, a couple years back. Very impressive. He also had the bayonet and just shocking
@propstick 4 aylar önce
Simply wonderful video...I learned a lot. I will have to get his book and display it along with my two Martini-Henry's.
@ianbarbarafry575 3 aylar önce
Just wonderful to hear someone talking who has thoroughly researched their subject and knows what they are talking about. Thank you.
@Boomhower89 4 aylar önce
A falling block is the simplest yet strongest action of any rifle ever created. While not a true falling block it is a close resemblance. Great rifle.
@cnocspeireag 4 aylar önce
Not a rifle, but Greener produced a shotgun with this action, certainly as late as the end of the nineteen-sixties. A friend bought one new then, and I did fire it. This was obviously a totally different experience. The action then still had a reputation for longevity and reliability.
@stevesmith9262 4 aylar önce
I've had the pleasure of firing these in 303 caliber many times at the range. Great rifle and a lot of fun and yes simple to use and strong action.
@chrisohnemus7979 4 aylar önce
I traveled half way around the world to visit the clash of empires exhibit. Thank you Alex and Ian . I have been fortunate to own Martini Henry rifles since I turned 18 over 40 years ago. Have also traveled to Rourke Drift and Isandlwa. Would have truly Enjoyed meeting Mr Aspinshaw and I can attest his book is Brilliant . Good shooting to All Chris Ohnemus
@mikefarnden2893 3 aylar önce
Great rifle, I had a Martini Henry Cavalry Carbine in 577 450 that I hand loaded. The carbine should have had the lighter loading of 70 grains BP, but I was using 45-70 bullets with the full 85 grain load and the recoil was "stout". I loved shooting that gun, it was a great conversation starter. Our firing points had sheet metal roofs that kids used to throw stones on top, and when I fired the MH there was a boom , a huge cloud of smoke followed by the clattering of all the stones the shockwave had dislodged falling back on the roof, happy days! Another fond memory was turning up one day with a fellow shooter downwind of me, and I politely suggested he might want to swap positions as I was using black powder. He declined but after about 6 rounds he couldn't see the target and had to relent. That always stuck in my mind, the smell and the smoke, imagine 500 men firing continuously, apart from the fear and adrenalin, the environmental impact must have been incredibly intense.
@basiloloughlin6105 4 aylar önce
My first rifle was a Martini 310 cal cadet cost me $3.00 pound, in 1958 the ammo cost 10 shillings [20 shells to a box], my weeks wages then was $5.00 pound a week, the old lady seen it in my room and told the old man he told me to send it back no bloody way, when I started bringing home rabbits and hares and foxes they never brought it up again, boy did I love that little rifle.😅
@mjpope1012 4 aylar önce
This gun apparently left a very big psychological impact on the Zulus who took the British out at iSandlwana. They were decimated by it's far reaching firepower & although the imperial troops were only a thousand or so, they stopped the best efforts of Cetswayo's massive Zulu Impi (20,000) dead in their tracks. The redcoats were well trained, firing the rifles in unison & if you could hear the repeat of, say: *80 rifles at once, it would be extremely terrifying to behold. The warriors especially remembered 'The Lunger' the mini sword that served as a deadly bayonet for this piece!! *Approximately the size of companies at the time.
@ashleychurnside2245 4 aylar önce
I had a WW Greener single barrel shot gun with a Martini action .It was robust worked well in all weather conditions.
@andrewd666 4 aylar önce
Really good expert, who clearly knows his stuff and, most importantly for a video, conveys his knowledge really well.
@redcoathistory 4 aylar önce
He was brilliant wasn’t he?! I loved talking to Neil.
@jamesdouglaswhittaker4612 4 aylar önce
Family history says that my great grandfather Peter Burn the younger- formerly British Army - honourable discharge, emigrated to Australia where he introduced the Martini Henry to the Australian Army in his role as Chief Sergeant Armourer to the State of New South Wales. Cannot guarantee that is 100% correct but that is the family legend.
@martinwarner1178 4 aylar önce
What a super video. That Aspinshaw fellow is truly an expert on that gun. Thank you. Peace and goodwill.
@jamesdown3139 4 aylar önce
My MK2 and enfield (.303) conversion are both extremely enjoyable to shoot. however the original mk2 can be quite daunting firing the monster of a cartidge
@bobmetcalfe9640 4 aylar önce
When I was at school we had compulsory cadets, and the armoury was full of these things. We also had a few SMLEs. There was always a competition to drill with the SMLEs, because they were a bit handier. I don't know what happened to the Martinis, I suspect they were simply scrapped, which is a pity because there would probably be worth a lot of money now. Much later I did fire one a number of times, because I belonged to a blackpowder club. We used to load them down because the recoil was ferocious. I think the standard load was about 85 grains of blackpowder, just from memory, and we used to drop it at least 5 grains, sometimes 10 depending on how much bruising you wanted to put up with.
@johncooper6413 4 aylar önce
Like several others on here I fired a .22 carbine on the range - 65years ago. I still remember the ease and simplicity of the Martini action.
@TrainmanDan 4 aylar önce
Good day! Thank you for the interesting history lesson. I have had several Sniders, Trapdoors and Martini-Henrys and they were all a lot of fun to shoot but the Martini was the most punishing. At the time I think brass was 4 bucks apiece so I think I made do with twenty rounds but that was enough to get the barrel very warm indeed! The thing about the Martini is that it wasn't a conversion so you didn't have the extra movement of cocking the hammer left over from the muzzle-loading musket. The rifles issued with the yataghan bayonet are a handfull. My two cents worth, cheers, Dan.
@redcoathistory 4 aylar önce
Thanks Dan 👍🏼
@michaelsewell3706 2 aylar önce
I live in South Africa and owned a MK2 which I sadly sold a few years ago. It was a BSA& Metford Co. , I hunted many of Southern Africa's plains game with it , all one shot kills and some shots taken as far as 150 metres.
@britishmuzzleloaders 4 aylar önce
Me!... Me!...... I've fired one! 😀 Great to see you have Neil on the Channel, Chris!
@redcoathistory 4 aylar önce
Thanks Rob. It’s a shame you couldn’t make it here as I think you would be in your element! 🙏
@michaeldoolan7595 4 aylar önce
I regularly shot a Martin Henry in long 22. I shot a Greener single barrel riot gun. Same action, and if it was clean, it was faultless.
@EggPottsKnock 4 aylar önce
I’ve fired all three rifles mentioned the Alex Henry was the nicest and the most accurate the Snider was no big deal the Martini whilst a good rifle kicked like a Mule 10 rounds was enough.
@JevansUK 4 aylar önce
I've blank fired one in Malta.
@paulrummery6905 4 aylar önce
My father had one, bored out to .32.. shot pigs with it..reckons it stopped them better than his Lee Enfield..
@elwayward3668 4 aylar önce
I own two of these beauties, a mkIV and a mid period sporter. They both thump a bit but nothing like large calibre nitro powder rifles. As with all black powder firearms it’s the smoke and smell that really make an impact; and the giant round too!! I also have a 1871/84 Mauser as a contemporary comparison. In its original 1871 form (single load only) it’s slower to load and less robust, however it’s .43 calibre cartridge is more accurate and far flatter shooting than the Martini.
@andypughtube 4 aylar önce
My favourite rifle in the shooting club at university (In London, UK) was a Martini converted to .22. At the time it never occurred to me at the time that it was probably 100 years old at the time. (This was in the mid 1980s)
@alfredneuman6488 4 aylar önce
I shot a few rounds through one in New Zealand. With a black powder home reload I could easily hit a 12" round target at around 200 yards. I was impressed with the size of the slug... certainly you would not want to be hit by one.
@jacko717 4 aylar önce
Never fired one, although I would love to. I'd like to see a video on the Lee Enfield 303;I have fond memories of firing one as a cadet in the mid 80s.
@stanboyd5820 4 aylar önce
It's the last in a trilogy by Patrick Mercer (ex British officer) following a character from the Crimean War, on to the Mutiny and finally the Afghan War. The history, tactics and weapons conditions and attitudes are IMHO spot on, it's all very well researched. Book 1 To Do and Die covers Crimea. Book 2 Dust and Steel the Mutiny with book 3 covering the Maiwand campaign. I certainly would recommend them to you.
@redcoathistory 4 aylar önce
Thanks a lot - I am going to check them out
@kenrobinson8060 4 aylar önce
I would appreciate some information on the martini cadet version in 310 calibre, these were issued to the Australian home guard units in 1942, I had one and used it for hunting in the 1960s as a child I was given one of the larger ones to play with because there was no ammunition available at the time. they were very good rifles.
@thehistoadian 4 aylar önce
Really love Martini Henry's, awesome rifles! Besides Antarctica and possibly South America they saw combat use in every continent! (Of couese Europe it was limited but still happened!)
@stevephillips8719 4 aylar önce
Great video about a truly great rifle. Yes the original service round is like most British military rounds; overkill. The little thumb depression at the right-side rear of the action was to place the thumb out of the way so you didn't get hit in the nose by it as the rifle recoiled. (see the video 2:20) This is standard practice for British big caliber double rifles also. Watch the 'Out of Africa' scene where Robert Redford and Merrill Streep encounter lions. She shoots one but gets a blood nose because she didn't hold the rifle correctly (understandable when a bloody great lion is charging you!) I have had a couple of Martini Henry Actions that are converted to other high-powered cartridges. My current 2 are in 35 Whelen (rimmed - cut down 9.3x74 cases) and the 6.5x54 Swedish (a rimmed variant). One made in 1889, the other a later model but arsenal converted to .303 British. The .35 is brutal to shoot but swift to use and very accurate. 200gns at 2750fps from a 7lb rifle. My Martini Cadet rifles (a much smaller version) are in High Powered calibers, (223 rimmed, 222 R, 22WRM, 6mm Phillips, 218 Bee) and with modern barrels can hold their own against the very best modern target rifles for accuracy.
@jonpick5045 4 aylar önce
Absolutely fascinating & superbly presented information. Really well done.
@rexfrommn3316 3 aylar önce
The Martini-Henry rifle was also chambered for smokeless powder in .303 caliber. I believe these were used for constabulary duty or second line duty in the First World War for the British reserve or territorial armies for training. I am basing this statement on the fact that French bought American Remington Rolling block rifles for second line troops chambered in 8mm Lebel. I am an American who served 20 years in the US Army so I only know things from books or the Zulu movie. I am familiar with the Henry Martini rifle from those sources or from Australian gun shooting enthusiasts who shoot copies of these rifles. Canadian shooters also have a certain number of .303 caliber Henry-Martini rifles. I always admired the British soldiers at Rorke's Rift. I think the British infantry units at Isandlwana might have had a better chance had they been on high ground with adequate fortifications, water and ammo supplies. Fortifications make all the difference in human wave type attacks of the Zulu's. The Martini-Henry's ability to fire about ten rounds per minute was a big increase over the muzzle loading rifled muskets used in the American Civil War. The rate of fire during the Civil War was a standard three rounds per minute with black powder weapons. The US Army took the Springfield rifled musket and made the Trapdoor musket that shot a cartridge similar to the Henry-Martini's large roughly .45 caliber round. The Trapdoor Springfield carbine rifle was used by the 7th Cavalry at the Little Bighorn under General Custer. Researchers are today convined that the copper cartridges of the Trapdoor Springfield 1873 rifle expanded as the the rifle was fired causing it to jam. It is said that many of Custer's men spent their last moment on earth desperately trying to unjamm their carbines with copper cartridges. The US Army switched to brass cartridges soon after the defeat at Little Bighorn. So don't feel bad, we Americans had our last stands too. The Sioux Indian tribes were known to have lever action repearter rifles that could shoot rapidly probably 20 or more rounds per minute.
@drboris01 4 aylar önce
I have fired quite a few rounds through my own Martini Henry MKI and others belonging to mates over the years. They certainly are thumpers and can be hard on the shoulder. For all day shooting, the old Snider breechloader is much easier on the shoulder
@petermartini8346 4 aylar önce
I must agree. The Snider Enfield was the 1st black powder rifle I purchased, about 15 years ago & I had to learn to both shoot & reload for it. I have however always wanted a Martini since seeing "Zulu" in 1964 at the age of 10 & after a few years of shooting the Snider managed to get a Martini to shoot. The Snider has a lighter charge but a heavier bullet but with a more or less straight case was a great rifle to learn blackpowder reloading on. The Martini case as a bottleneck is a lot more difficult to reload & in the time since I have been firing these 2 rifles I have reloaded & fired some 2-3000 rounds from my Sniders but only a few hundred from my Martinis. I do love them both though. I am also fortunate in that here in Canada it is possible to find the Martini Mk.I as our govt bought some 2100 in 1973 but never issued them for general use. We kept using our Sniders until the 1890's, long after the Brits gave them up.
@easyfiveOsink 3 aylar önce
I use to have two BSA Martini Cadet rifles. One converted to 22LR and one converted to 357 magnum. They were fun guns.
@slc308 3 aylar önce
I own a few. Love them. Have one rebarreled to 7.62x54R and another in 45-70 as well as the original .577/450 cartridge.
@jhni1 4 aylar önce
I used to fire one for target shooting when i was 15, many years ago but it was only .22 calibre but i did live using it. Many years later when worked in a scrapyard we had to cut a few up for the police. A heartbreaking thing to have to do. Great video
@adrianh332 4 aylar önce
Thanks for making and posting this, it's an absolutely riveting documentary. Top man👍🤝
@redcoathistory 4 aylar önce
Lovely - thanks for watching.
@sidekickbob7227 4 aylar önce
Got one mk4, and a Turkish Peabody Martini in 11,43x59R. The mk4 shoots quite well, and I'm working on the ammunition for the Peabody. The Martini action is nice enough, but I find the Remington Rolling block to be faster, due to easier cartridge handling.
@csh7119 4 aylar önce
If the Snyder was a stop-gap, it was one of the most successful stop-gaps in history, particularly for a fire-iron.
@davidbell1619 4 aylar önce
I have fired both Schneider/Martini. The Martini has it in speed reload and happily both are stupid proof.
@russbarker2727 4 aylar önce
I fired a .22 BSA rifle that was based on the Martini-Henry when I was in the air cadets in the late 1970s. It was not the easiest to fire from the prone position.
@user-tm1mt2vp5p 3 aylar önce
Hi, When I was 17 years of age and serving in 5 Queens regiment back in the late sixties we would sometimes train on land owned by a local farmer. We were using SLR and GPMG firing7.62 blank while carrying out section- platoon attacks. The Farmer enjoyed playing soldiers with us and would often act as enemy. He had one of these Martini Henry's( handed down from his military forebears) He would take up defensive position and pop up blasting away in our direction. Great fun. At end of maneuvers while supping tea he was asked about His Martini... Questions like "Was it powerful and how accurate was it?" "I'll show you" says he" Fishing a handful of blank rounds from the pocket of his jacket and sorting out a few live rounds he repocketed the blanks and then demonstrated just how powerful his rifle was. At a hundred yards the round entered the tree trunk that was close to two feet thick and passing clean through it. We were amazed at the noise and smoke and the way the farmer rubbed his shoulder after he fired. Several times his hand returned to his pocket picking out live rounds from blanks so that he could demonstrate his pride and joy. The farmer had been blasting away at us all morning acting as enemy .So not only do I count myself lucky to have witness this great Rifle in action, but later on, when recalling the days events it occurred to me that we had all VERY VERY VERY LUCKY that the Farmer in the heat of battle hadn't loaded a live round instead of blank . Back at the drill hall I reported to our company Commander a Major Peter Harrington what I had seen and his usual ruddy complexion drained from his face.
@2bingtim Gün önce
Thanks for that Neil & RH. Always great to get the true realities rather than the movie myths. Great stuff.
@BigLisaFan 4 aylar önce
As the Martini was a breechloader, technically that rod is a cleaning/clearing rod as a jag could be screwed onto the threaded end and also used to clear a jammed case from the breech so therefore not a ramrod as used on muzzle loaders.
@johndonovan8062 4 aylar önce
My first shotgun was a greener version of the martini henry. It was a lovely gun and very accurate. Hell of a kick and the barrel used to get very hot.
@tileux 4 aylar önce
I used to target shoot with one of these. Good rifle. But the big problem was that occasionally it would eject a red hot brass cartridge straight up into the air and down the left sleeve of your shooting jacket. Which is not helpful when youre in the middle of a tight competition shoot and theres only a couple of points between the top 4 or 5 shooters. Ps for those who have never shot competitively, the priority is to keep movement to a minimum - not easy when a red hot cartridge has gone down your sleeve and is burning a hole in your elbow. I started on SLRs in the army. From memory (it was a long time ago), you kept the combination tool inside a small compartment in the butt, which was accessible by flipping a little door in the steel butt plate.
@SmokinLoon5150 4 aylar önce
Bravo! Excellent work. Thanks for sharing!
@headshot6959 4 aylar önce
Be very careful, if you own one, when you disassemble it. Action parts of the rifles that survive today are often cobbled together from different marks. They function, but don't always go back together the way they're supposed to. I don't know for sure but I think it's down to the tumbler and the breech block. Just my ten-cents-worth. Great fun to shoot though.
@joeyleverton6800 4 aylar önce
Simple...Deadly. A magnificent weapon for an infantry soldier.
@welshwarrior5263 4 aylar önce
There was ammunition box screws found on the battlefield of Islandlwana. They were bent out of shape. I think it was Ian knight who said that he thinks were boxs were smashed open with the rifle butts.
@michaeldelucci4379 2 aylar önce
In 1988 I finally got to the Gettysburg battlefield. There are a lot of surplus stores in the town. Well I found a shop at the end of my visit it had a MH on sale but I don't have enough money to buy it. It was very rusty but I could have cleaned it up. Since then it is "if I only had known" I would have bought it a heartbeat.
@kpadmirer 3 aylar önce
I owned one for 40 years. Loaded cartridges with XXX black powder, Pyrodex and IMR 4198 smokeless. Lots of fun.
@D70Dug 3 aylar önce
Used a MH 577 as a display weapon for the Royal Queensland Defence Force B company Moreton Regiment Only ever fired blanks but we had a lot of fun being the recreation of "The Frog Hollow Rangers" One of the problems was the only people making .577 cartridges was in South Africa and because of Apartheid we were banned from buying any in 1975 We finally got about 40 cartridges and with a side pouch of 5 rounds each we dressed in our red uniforms and white pith helmets and met on the banks of the Brisbane river at Newstead House early one sunday morning. We formed up and the order was given to fire a "coups de joie" or shots for joy, everyone loaded a blank and then fired a uncoordinated volley of shots into the air A rattle of gunshots broke the quiet and foggy morning and we were delighted ......... until the sound of police sirens started :-( We realised in our hurry to fire the weapons we had sort of forgotten to inform the police. Our colour sergeant was an ex Royal Marine Warrant Officer and our officer was a local Brisbane plummer . As the sirens got closer the colour sergeant gave the order to fix bayonetts and form a 2 rank skirmish line on the top of a hill overlooking the parking area. The first police car to arrive was a pair of detectives ending their night shift, the jumped out of their car hiding behind the doors and holding their issue .32 caliber pistols. They looked at us, they looked at their pistols, they looked at us and looked at each other , they looked at their pistols and put them away. By this time 5 or 6 other police cars had turned up and bewildered cops were looking like their had slipped through some weird time warp. We held our skirmish line and our officer and colour sergeant marched down, the sergent did a perfect present arms with his sword and greeted the police with. "Royal Queensland Defence Force B company Moreton Regiment reporting SIR !" as any colour sergeant would ;-) The cops decided doing anything would create a mass of totally confusing paperwork and reports that would annoy their superiors so they just told us to carry on, we did, the unit still exists and is part of the Fort Lytton historical display Many years later I obtained a MH that had originally been chambered for .577 but had been rechambered for .577/45 then to .303 I never fired a live round as it was only tested for black powder not the modern .303 powder, but it was still nice and is still in the hands of a collector who was also an original member of "the Frog Hollow Rangers" at the battle of Newstead house !!!
@garyeckstein4917 4 aylar önce
I had a re-tooled Martini carbine used by the Austrailian police or territorial guard, it was .38 caliber. Very nice, well-balanced firearm.
@garyeckstein4917 4 aylar önce
Actually, it was chambered for .357 but I used .38 ammo, it was like this description: "Originally chambered for the .310 Cadet or .310 Greener cartridge, these rifles were used as trainers for Military Cadets in Australia & New Zealand. After being sold by the Australian government, many were converted to sporting or target rifles, often re-barrelled to larger calibers. This rifle is converted to .357 Magnum."
@alonsocushing2263 4 aylar önce
I am fortunate enough to have a Mk.III MH in my collection of antique firearms but I have never fired it. I seem to recall reading that when the siege of Rorke's Drift was over, all the men had very bruised shoulders. Some had switched arms to fire owing to the bruising. The recoil was probably terrible towards the end of the battle owing to fouling of the barrels.
@davidbell1619 4 aylar önce
Pius in heat of battle I garuntee that they were not shouldering them properly. That and the recoil beat the crap ou of them.
@davidhorsley7350 4 aylar önce
When I served in the army I bought two old and very ropey looking martini Henry rifles. They were sub calibred to .22 in rimfire. I used the two to make one good one. Fitted telescopic scope and was a great rifle to fire ...
@redcoathistory 4 aylar önce
Very cool. Purchased in Afghan?
@davidhorsley7350 4 aylar önce
No whilst in Germany
@billgoodwin8013 4 aylar önce
As a lad I marched with Martini Henrys from the Zulu War. They were bloody heavy.
@julianlord2697 4 aylar önce
I have a Mk II and a Mk IV. I load my own cartridges to meet original type but Bertram brass. I use bullets for a 45/70, cast them myself from recovered lead. They grip the bore well and come out octagonal and spinning. Important to use a grease cookie in the neck to soften the fouling, and cards. It kicks like a mule, a huge amount of smoke comes out. The sights are very clear but I only shoot to 200 yards due to my range being small. I can hit a small plate at 200 yards. It will pass through 3" of softwood at 200 yards.
@jonesyjones7626 3 aylar önce
A first class video. Well presented and an excellent and knowledgeable speaker. Wish I’d seen his presentation.
@eTraxx 4 aylar önce
Great video. I have a Mk 4 1887 Martini-Henry which I have only used for display. Wonderful information.
@nicholasstilley2370 4 aylar önce
Been trying to get ahold of one of these in the states for the better part of a decade now, best I've got so far is the socket bayonet for one that I picked up last week
@andrewherbert9938 4 aylar önce
Well , at last , for the first time I now have an understanding of whether the troops in 1879 were using the Mk1 or Mk2 Martini , fantastic interview , what an interesting and obvious expert on the subject. I’m assuming that the guys at RD had the the mk2
@redcoathistory 4 aylar önce
Neil was brilliant wasn’t he? I really enjoyed talking to him. Thanks for watching
@andrewherbert9938 4 aylar önce
@@redcoathistory yes absolutely brilliant, think I’m going to have to buy his book , wish I’d gone to the exhibition this week and not the week before , do you know if I’d be right in thinking the guys at RD would have been armed with the Mk2 ?
@robertstallard7836 4 aylar önce
@@andrewherbert9938 At Rorke's Drift it would have been the Mark 2 (the Mark 1 upgraded): The 1st battalion 24th, were deployed to South Africa in 1875 and would have been issued with the Mark I version. The 2nd battalion and any new recruits leaving England after April 1877, when the Mark II was introduced, would have carried the Mark I upgrade. Men sent out as reinforcements after Isandlwana may well have carried the full Mark II version. As an aside, it is not been established exactly when the rifles issued to the 1st Battalion at Isandlwana would have been upgraded. Temple & Skennerton in "A Treatise on the British Military Martini" states: "By 31st March 1878 about 260,000 Martini-Henry rifles will have been altered.‟ That's as much as we know. Wilsey, in his book "Battle in Zululand‟ 1916, stated the following: "It is not absolutely clear to what extent the 1st battalion armourers might have been able to upgrade the rifles to Mark II standard, but it seems very likely they were not converted as the battalion was busy on operations and most conversions were carried out at RSAF Enfield.‟ But, for the defenders of Rorke's Drift (at least the 2nd Battalion members, discounting the miscellaneous sick and wounded in the hospital, who might have had anything!) they would have had the Mk1 upgraded to Mark 2. Hope that helps.
@peterphillips4218 4 aylar önce
I used to shoot one of these in long range antique military rifle competitions. We cast our own bullets , used waxed paper patches, and converted our cartridges to take large rifle primers. We could routinely hit man sized targets out past 800 yards. After a day on the range your shoulder would be sore for a week !
@Andy_Ross1962 4 aylar önce
Back in the 70s as a youngster I fired a .303 conversion at a shooting club. A go with an original would be an interesting comparison
@mrpirate3470 3 aylar önce
Whilst in service in 1986 I ran the Companys arms store. We Still had two Martini Henrys sleeved down to .22lr in there.
@robertthomas3777 4 aylar önce
Fascinating. Yes, fired one a couple of times. Great experience.
@louisdisbury9759 4 aylar önce
I saw one hanging on a wall in a hotel in Newcastle Natal with the breech missing, The manager put me in contact with the guy that owned it he came we took it off the wall back to his place and assembled it then took it out to test it,Black powder rounds a big kick so you have to keep the rifle tightly shouldered and black powder is deafening without ear protection very accurate rifle and easy to use................... An American unit in Afghanistan caught an Afghan sniper with one of these 15 years ago.
@serverlan763 2 aylar önce
Ive got one in 450/577 . You can buy the brass for them again now which is great. There are still plenty of them available second hand though they are starting to get pricey
@PaulThorpeWatchDealer 3 aylar önce
Absolutely enthralling interview! We’ll done gents
@dmweibel7423 4 aylar önce
I was fortunate to own a few of these great pieces of history. A pleasure to shoot but, a pain in locating ammunition.
@peterreece6547 3 aylar önce
I never fired one of these rifles but for years I used a Greener GP 12 bore shot gun which had the same action and it had a 31” barrel. As a young lad I was a member of a shooting club where I used a .22 rifle rifle which had this sort of action.
@sakkiestoffberg4052 3 aylar önce
Restored quite a few. Easier to save black powder rifling than cordite. Have an Enfield, a carbine and a Westley Richards " Made Specially for ZAR " wich is superior 😊in accuracy and everything else on the fore mentioned. All of them realy nice weapons to shoot.
@demos113 4 aylar önce
C&Rsenal has done 7 roughly 1hr vids covering the various model of this rifle, worth a watch. 🙂
We Fired the Martini-Henry | Rifle of the Zulu War
Ayten Rasul & Morko - Görmedim Sen Gibi (Akustik)
Sakla Beni 5. Bölüm
Sakla Beni
görünümler 4,1 Mn
Mustafa Ceceli & Didar - Sana Yandım
Mustafa Ceceli
görünümler 769 B
Shooting The Martini Henry with a 45LC Adapter!!
Bullets and Buttons
görünümler 1,8 B
Reloading for the .577/450 Martini-Henry
görünümler 41 B
Martini Henry Sniper Rifle? Long Range 600 Yard Test
1945 Long Branch Sniper Rifle No 4 MkI* (T) 90L8xxx series
Ayten Rasul & Morko - Görmedim Sen Gibi (Akustik)