Classic Stossel: Stupid in America

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John Stossel

John Stossel

2 yıl önce

Exciting things are happening in education suddenly. In some places, charter schools bucked the unions, and got results. Inner-city kids do well on benchmark tests.
They are excited to learn! When Stossel tells fourth graders that school is boring, they yell at him, “No, it’s not!” Says one boy: “Reading is rockin’ awesome!”
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Stossel reports on the innovations at the Success Charter Network and Harlem Village Academy in New York, and at the American Indian Public Charter School in Oakland, California.
“Let’s destroy the system… create a system that serves kids,” says charter school director Deborah Kenny. Hurricane Katrina made that experiment possible by destroying much of New Orleans. Now 70% of New Orleans students attend charters, and they’re learning more.
A Classic Stossel from 2011

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@LogicalQ
@LogicalQ 2 yıl önce
Thank you John. You are one of a small handful of journalists still committed to the craft. Always insightful and interesting.
@augustuscaesar8287
@augustuscaesar8287 2 yıl önce
He really is one of like a handful of journalists that are actually worthy of your time & respect. One of the few who is objective in their presentation of the news.
@victoriahebert3073
@victoriahebert3073 2 yıl önce
Yes, like Charter Schools. Also really appreciate John Stossel over the years.
@SocalSamStokes
@SocalSamStokes 2 yıl önce
Indeed
@askmeanything8336
@askmeanything8336 2 yıl önce
*Like these kids weren't coached.* *Parents need to stop sending the children to institutions, giving your child over to the enemy which is the state.*
@askmeanything8336
@askmeanything8336 2 yıl önce
*"The Craft" code for Masons.*
@jimzee6214
@jimzee6214 2 yıl önce
Wow, teachers actually concerned about their student's learning. Funny, how things that were commonplace 50 years ago are now revolutionary today.
@randallulrich
@randallulrich 2 yıl önce
"Everything that's old is new again." Even that saying is old.
@standinginthegap7118
@standinginthegap7118 2 yıl önce
Exactly
@toshikotanaka3249
@toshikotanaka3249 2 yıl önce
This should be the standard for all schools, not the exception. Every position I have ever held came with the implication that, if my performance were sub-par, my employment would be terminated. Teachers should be no different. It's an extremely important job because these children are the future, they will be running the country, so their teachers need to be phenomenal. If they are not, they need to be terminated . Everything should be done to insure their education is as exceptional as possible. Instead, parents wishing for a top notch education for their children must hope they have a winning ticket. I'm serious when I say as education goes, so goes our nation, and our nation is looking bleak.
@y.peffle2802
@y.peffle2802 2 yıl önce
I'm friends with my kids charter school teachers... believe me there is major burnout also. My kids kindergarten teacher is quitting after this year after 22 years with this school (her entire teaching career)
@abbyxiong3931
@abbyxiong3931 Yıl önce
Or being fired for incompetence.
@sterling3159
@sterling3159 2 yıl önce
As a public high school educator, I approve of this video.
@gregpoulin8210
@gregpoulin8210 2 yıl önce
Much respect to you.
@abbyxiong3931
@abbyxiong3931 Yıl önce
Thank you! I had a great history teacher that taught me the horror socialism. I don't think he is still a teacher because the school board didn't like him. It is a sad now where I graduated. They hired more security. They treat students like prisoners.
@thatguy22441
@thatguy22441 3 aylar önce
It seems to me the money being spent by the government on public education goes to pay the salaries of administrators and pet projects, not on actual students. I'm a high school dropout from Arkansas who has had to correct the grammar of college graduates. Something is very wrong with that picture. I can't tell you how many college graduates I've met who were dumber than dirt. Education =/= intelligence. By 6th grade I knew I was being told a bunch of horseshit. It was mostly platitudes about "America the Magnificent", interspersed with math, English and (not enough) history. The fact that I couldn't get a study guide and 'take the finals' before age 16 told me something: School is indoctrination.
@roastedlion1
@roastedlion1 Yıl önce
This is the secret why Vietnamese students are crazy good. We got disciplined. I appreciate my teachers everyday. They did a great job educating children.
@katiewalker9208
@katiewalker9208 2 yıl önce
Charter schools are making a huge difference!! Keep fighting for parent choice. Let’s shut down the teachers unions for good!
@flfun2no
@flfun2no 2 yıl önce
My kids are in the Common Core curriculum and the math assignments are reprehensible. I can only conclude that the government is intentionally giving our children bad educations.
@vince1638
@vince1638 2 yıl önce
Im curious what you are going to do about it?
@stevenoverwood2474
@stevenoverwood2474 2 yıl önce
@@vince1638 I and my wife, are and will remain Child free. However, I see the danger in the Country's future if the course of education doesn't change. Public Schools are beyond repair. Homeschooling, charter schools,private schools and non public internet options are the best hope to save this Republic.
@markvalentine5851
@markvalentine5851 2 yıl önce
I'm curious what state you live in. Lots of states have dropped common core now. Some have quietly renamed it.
@usapanda7303
@usapanda7303 2 yıl önce
John is a treasure. Those parents waiting in line FOR THE CHANCE TO GET THEIR KIDS INTO A SCHOOL ARE HEROES. THOSE ARE THE BEST DAMN PARENTS! WE NEED MORE LIKE THEM!
@juanone66
@juanone66 2 yıl önce
Unfortunately, we keep voting for mayors and city councils who pander to teachers' unions and oppose charter schools.
@ZapDash
@ZapDash 2 yıl önce
And we need to help these schools expand so more of those parents can get their kids into the programs.
@wierdlygruesome
@wierdlygruesome 2 yıl önce
If those parents were heroes wouldn’t they take an interest in there own local public school to facilitate change or Is that to much work or is it just about there child.
@bluehotdog2610
@bluehotdog2610 2 yıl önce
@@juanone66 It has nothing to do with government policy. It has to do with culture. The fact of the matter is that you can only teach content only a certain amount of ways
@Ryfinius
@Ryfinius 2 yıl önce
You have a low bar for hero.
@dreamsofturtles1828
@dreamsofturtles1828 2 yıl önce
I LOVE to hear that children love to learn. Its natural for them to learn. It takes boring, anxiety -ridden schools to grind that out of them.
@independentvoter9973
@independentvoter9973 4 aylar önce
I'm a teacher in a public school who believes that school choice makes our education and government systems better. In fact, I would like to see a more level playing field on the collegiate level where private colleges and universities were given the same financial aid opportunities as government-funded schools. CHOICE and COMPETITION raises the bar and makes us better!
@javiervasquez29
@javiervasquez29 5 aylar önce
I agree with this. It should be like this everywhere. Soft teaching of children is harming people.
@friendsoftheamazonjungle
@friendsoftheamazonjungle 2 yıl önce
"My grandfather once told me that there were two kinds of people: those who do the work and those who take the credit. He told me to try to be in the first group; there was much less competition" - Indira Gandhi
@abhishekbhaskar6268
@abhishekbhaskar6268 2 yıl önce
out of all u got indira gandhi, btw she too took other people credit, ask sam manek shaw.
@bobbimccauley1932
@bobbimccauley1932 2 yıl önce
I love John Stossel. I used his stuff when I homeschooled my daughter. She liked him too.
@porterwake3898
@porterwake3898 2 yıl önce
I'm a teacher. In schools you have so much administration and bureaucracy it is unreal. Director of this, director of that, blah blah. Should be Principal, teachers, period.
@danwhite1307
@danwhite1307 2 yıl önce
and Parents!
@georgehancock2307
@georgehancock2307 2 yıl önce
I was a teacher in remote Canada and it was the same. Bad teachers were moved up the ladder to get them out of the class and teachers never got any real help from them.
@TriZaba
@TriZaba 2 yıl önce
Teacher as well here, bureaucratic red tape coupled with extreme gate keeping and outright political witch-hunting of staff that isn’t part of the hive mind is absolutely toxic for our students.i think some elements within the charter video go a little too far but the results speak for themselves compared with most public schools.
@showmemo3686
@showmemo3686 2 yıl önce
I'm retired from a school district. School districts have so many Assistant Superintendents; it's laughable. They have to create more space to provide offices for all of these new six figure administrative positions and their administrative assistants. There is a large chunk of the cost of your child's education.
@jisharagu
@jisharagu Yıl önce
Can you imagine a little kid crying because he was not accepted into an amazing school like that? Wow. Heartbreaking.
@patrickbubniak4527
@patrickbubniak4527 7 aylar önce
I go to a public school in New Jersey and the education is excellent. My school is smart because they don't let people off the hook when they are falling behind. Public schools can be this great, based on what I have experienced, I believe that it truly comes down to the people running the school, from the administration to the teachers.
@hs5167
@hs5167 2 yıl önce
When we first moved to AZ I signed my kids up for public school, three weeks in I sent my son to his JR. High math teacher to explain how to do some problems and her response was, “don’t worry, I don’t know how to solve them either…” I pulled him out and sent him to a Charter school with high expectations and scores.
@monkeyking-self-proclaimed7050
@monkeyking-self-proclaimed7050 2 yıl önce
This will scare you more. When I was in college, I went to ask my professor a question. She told me that she was not there to teach us. She's there to guide us and gives us assignments only. She would assign homework and her way of teaching and explaining the homework assignment was to copy what was on the teacher's solution manual to the white board. Both her and her husband have tenure. I heard her husband was good but teaches another subject. A lot of times, the professor has a reputation of being good not because they are really good but because they are easy on the grades. ... Yes, I'm talking about you Mrs. Watermelon!!!!!!!!!
@hs5167
@hs5167 2 yıl önce
@@monkeyking-self-proclaimed7050 That’s terrible. I had great teachers in college who could explain (multiple ways) how to solve the problems. The worst college instructor I had was a philosophy teacher.
@curtisbacon7856
@curtisbacon7856 2 yıl önce
@@hs5167 philosophy cannot be taught it can only be learned
@elizrebezilmadommdo1662
@elizrebezilmadommdo1662 2 yıl önce
My old animation teacher, who taught us how to use Autodesk Maya, retired halfway through my senior year. She was replaced by another teacher who didn't know how to animate or use Autodesk Maya, so we had to learn the rest of what was left for the school year by ourselves. She was a very condescending jerk too, especially for a teacher who knew less than all of her students did about the subject (that's not even an exaggeration). She even had the whole summer or teach herself how to use Maya, and she refused, but instead came back to school still not knowing how to use it. Thankfully for me, I was already in college when she returned for the new school year, but I know this because someone who was a grade below me told me. It's not like I went to a really bad school either. It wasn't the best of the district, but it wasn't the worst either. I can't imagine how huge of a problem it must be in schools with even less funding.
@abbyxiong3931
@abbyxiong3931 Yıl önce
Exactly. Sad about the decline of public schools in my area and worse that some people do not care about responsibility and are just going along with whatever free thing they can have. And Giving all the kids cell phones.
@big_dro1713
@big_dro1713 2 yıl önce
My high school teachers were absurdly pathetic. Some felt there was nothing wrong showing up late to class on a daily basis. Others felt it was ok to give busy work on a near daily basis. Others felt it was ok to show movies on a near daily basis. If I could, I would have fired about half the teachers I had. Of course there was a teachers union.
@abbyxiong3931
@abbyxiong3931 Yıl önce
Mine did that too. My college professors were no better. I had a professor complain about teaching, showing up for work and then ended up failing the majority class and lecture the class about being lazy. This was just a small time college.
@nunyabusiness4904
@nunyabusiness4904 Yıl önce
I had an English teacher in high school who would show up hungover on a fairly regular basis, we could tell she had a hangover because she would wear her sunglasses all day and turn on a movie. She would also have us read books with tons of swear words out loud and lose her mind if someone read exactly what was on the page. Finally after missing a week and half due to bronchitis during which time the class had started a group project, I was told to do the project on my own and given the same deadline as the other students.
@ziplokk1453
@ziplokk1453 Yıl önce
Parents are the worst enemy of public schools. The ones whose kid(s) can do no wrong, whose kids suck at school yet have to keep going so the parents have a babysitter.
@DonTruman
@DonTruman 2 yıl önce
Love the reactions from the kids in the first group. You were totally feeding them the opportunity to say how they hated school, math, reading, etc, and they totally disagreed and showed how much they loved it. That's huge.
@amadensor
@amadensor 2 yıl önce
Remember, it's the teacher's union, not the student's union. When the parents cannot choose, there is no incentive for the school to ensure that the student success.
@shiniquajones2812
@shiniquajones2812 2 yıl önce
That’s a great point, no students union or parents union.
@arasb3258
@arasb3258 2 yıl önce
Like your logo!
@amadensor
@amadensor 2 yıl önce
@@jamesk641 never said they were good. Just pointing out who they represent, so you know that anything they do is for their members, or more likely for their leadership.
@nibargerj
@nibargerj 2 yıl önce
Love the logo!
@wzl25
@wzl25 Yıl önce
This is awesome. Who wouldn't want their kids excited to learn. I went to private school and public school and I can say, private schools did more with less. Keep up the good work.
@scottsullivan8185
@scottsullivan8185 2 yıl önce
The solution to public education in the USA is obvious: Charter schools, school choice, vouchers. All things the teacher's union tells us won't work, but there it is, succeeding. Another great video from Stossel.
@jammer6524
@jammer6524 2 yıl önce
NO way, most Charter schools want to teach the earth is less than 10,000 years old.
@ihavekalashnikovyoudomath9275
@ihavekalashnikovyoudomath9275 Yıl önce
Teachers' Union: "No it doesn't! If it does, then that mean I actually have to try! I don't want to actually work!"
@CvnDqnrU
@CvnDqnrU 9 aylar önce
@@jammer6524 Can you even prove your claims? Prove the age of earth?
@Drakinomikron
@Drakinomikron 2 yıl önce
Hearing about the teacher making her student do pushups reminds me of my drafting teacher in high school. She would give us the option of 50-100 pushups or the principal's office when we acted up. From my experience, it worked well. Students got in less trouble with the powers that be but were still punished for acting up. Plus we had the added benefit of doing something healthy.
@muttly3190
@muttly3190 10 aylar önce
Damn that's a lot of push ups 😳 😅
@beverlymoore4399
@beverlymoore4399 2 yıl önce
My grandkids go to a classical education charter school. They are getting an excellent education and they learn to reason well. My husband taught in one of their schools for several years after teaching in a very good public school for 25 years and was so pleased with the education he was seeing the kids recieve. We live in a right to work state so you cannot be forced to join a union.
@godfingah
@godfingah 2 yıl önce
The amount of enthusiasm for helping them learn and find true happiness is so beautiful. This is good
@ravador
@ravador 2 yıl önce
Maybe when you stop teaching kids about gender dysphoria all the time, they might actually learn something productive. What a novel idea. I can't believe someone came up with that!
@Sixstringman
@Sixstringman 2 yıl önce
But then how would they give kids gender dysphoria? Isnt that their goal?
@Blubbertube
@Blubbertube 2 yıl önce
Public schools in the US are not teaching about gender dysphoria, and they definitely weren’t when this very old video was originally recorded.
@robh3007
@robh3007 2 yıl önce
@@Blubbertube so, you're saying there are varying degrees of not teaching it? They're not teaching it now, and they DEFINITELY weren't teaching it then? Meaning they're only KINDA not teaching it now? wink wink, nudge nudge, say no more
@Blubbertube
@Blubbertube 2 yıl önce
@@robh3007 no, I’m saying that this was not even a common social or political talking point in the United States when the video was recorded. It’s like saying people were definitely NOT teaching how to use an iPhone in 2007, and they still aren’t teaching it now. They have never taught how to use an iPhone in school, but they especially would not have been teaching it in 2007 because it had only just been announced and nobody was teaching students how to use them period. Or a more comparable topic, nobody was teaching sex ed to gay men in public schools in the mid 1900’s, because it was not socially acceptable to discuss period.
@donf3877
@donf3877 2 yıl önce
@@Blubbertube They might not have been when this video was originally recorded, but they sure as hell are now. And, as early as pre-school. Boys can be girls, and girls can be boys, and some can be both, and sex education, and on and on. A good friend of mine almost wound up in jail, because he confronted the manager of the pre-school on what his daughter was being "taught"... "groomed" is more like it. Needless to say, he decided his daughter was better off not going to pre-school AT ALL. And, this sure as hell is being taught in elementary schools as early as kindergarten ALL over the country. If you don't think so, you are either blind... or WAY behind the times.
@AmyLou733
@AmyLou733 2 yıl önce
The charter school in my community opened mid year last year. They began here in the middle of the pandemic, and it is one of the best, most positive and encouraging schools I have seen, and I've worked in quite a few. I love charter schools done right.
@NeverForget1937
@NeverForget1937 2 yıl önce
These teachers and principals are obviously people who care about their jobs, and more importantly, the impact they’re having on these young people!! Let’s lift them up and appreciate them!!!
@SMACTOR1
@SMACTOR1 2 yıl önce
Thank you John! Why are we not taking the education of our children from these union schools if they are not performing? These charter schools need to be upheld in our country.
@NiaLin
@NiaLin 2 yıl önce
What I noticed when I was in education in CA, was that the teachers who really cared, who chose the profession to help & educate children, most often eventually wound up leaving the public system to teach at charters or privates. Especially those in Special Education where the politics & bureaucracy just beats you down & restricts how much teachers can help kids.
@FUToob
@FUToob 2 yıl önce
I think there will be, or could be, thousands of teachers commenting here like I am about to do. My school went "woke". They gave all students the authority to anonymously evaluate teachers, and it was hated. Students, generally, did not want to do it, other than the ones who had grievances, and they wielded enormous power. I had 1% (approx. 1 out of my 100 students) accuse me one year of, "Mr. X is having sekksual relationships with students". These were 12 and 13 year olds. This was clearly an outlier comment. Do you not think that if it were true that more than one student would know it and report it anonymously at that age? I was threatened with a "forensic investigation". This was the last straw. In this video, about the 05:00 mark the student used the term "mean". After 25 years of teaching, with no serious mark against me for anything, admin. put me on an "Action Plan" because of a comment I made. I'm not going to say what it was, but I assure you it was harmless. The admin. did not know the backstory to the comment, and made a false assumption. He, the self-proclaimed "social justice warrior," had it in for me since I am conservative. The Action Plan said that if another student made a comment with the word "mean" in it, that I would fail the plan and be fired. Think about that. Strict, demanding responsibility, having standards can be construed as "mean" by a 12 year old. I was called mean for not letting students text friends in other classes. I was given a text to use in class. Seven teachers, the other 6 women, used this text over about 6 years. It was approved by the principal, and chosen by his wife, the librarian. I didn't read two pages, nor ask the student to, since the previous year I had been disciplined when a parent complained that the text (a section about forced migration), included the terms, "prostitution," and "brothel". Remember, this was assigned to me to use in class, and approved by the very same principal who disciplined me for using it. The next year, I avoided the text, but an avid reader turned to the pages, later went home, and asked her mother what a "brothel" is. Another phone call, another trip to admin., and the explanation that I did not read the text nor assign it, but it didn't matter. I was labeled a "problem" teacher unofficially. It probably happened long before that. I was never openly rude, but I never just went along with the woke initiatives forced on us. Two months after the above "brothel" issue - the second one - the admin. approved a mural in the hallway of the school : "LGBTQ-GF-PS-TS-++Ally, all spelled out with definitions, over the rainbow. I was threatened with investigation for a one off comment, remember, and disciplined for using an assigned text - that the Director of Learning also told me was appropriate to use. All this to say, I retired. Good thing I saved my pennies. Education is a disaster these days. You may think that all those horrible "woke" teachers are in the public school, but they are everywhere, and many become administrators. Spelling error to avoid deletion by YT.
@cknorris3644
@cknorris3644 7 aylar önce
I did good in school because of my parents. That's what's missing in a lot of those kids. Teachers can't be disciplinarians too. Making sure your kid has enough sense to not act a fool is the parents job.
@Michael-it2jz
@Michael-it2jz 2 yıl önce
John is an absolute genius journalist
@EB-sh2jr
@EB-sh2jr 7 aylar önce
He is? The teachers are unionized in central europe and they have a fantastic educational system. 40 percent of the students sit on the floor in chicago because they don't have desks. Teachers have to pay for school supplies out of their own pay. Property tax is $10000 dollars a year for the average home in Illinois. U.S. government corruption is the reason why u.s. schools are so bad. Mr Stossel is an awful journalist that did not to any research on the subject and is attacking the working people the teachers and their union;while he puts the cash in his pocket from a corporate,elitist controlled news agency
@jackiefialkowski2892
@jackiefialkowski2892 2 yıl önce
This is amazing!! We need more schools like this...our kids are thirsty for learning!! These are our future leaders, we must invest in them!! If a teacher is fired, so be it!! This country needs to be SMART again!!!
@BoilingDietCoke
@BoilingDietCoke Yıl önce
Thank you John, I did not know about how great that man is. "She was incompetent". So much WIN! I left public school at 17, and went to a charter school. It was so much better than, wait for it, Desert Mountain Highschool in Scottsdale, Arizona. I was able to go to school, learn faster, and work to help support my grandma, and mom. This is an outstanding educational piece for parents.
@PurpleTrapezoidProds
@PurpleTrapezoidProds 2 yıl önce
Yes! Finally someone who talks about defunding education
@bcwest56
@bcwest56 2 yıl önce
I went to country school where the teacher had eight grades to teach plus kindergarten. I learned more at that school than when I was forced to go to public school when the country schools were shut down by the state. I was in fourth grade and I had more reading and math skills than my new schoolmates. Now those schools are gone, but what an education. Only one teacher with all the range of age. I will always remember those kids and my teachers.
@blxtothis
@blxtothis Yıl önce
I’m a septuagenarian English native and I found that uplifting and eye popping. Our political masters over here are too interested in keeping the population disenfranchised to risk something so positive.
@callmelegendawight8298
@callmelegendawight8298 2 yıl önce
My kids were having a really difficult time in public school. I pulled them out and home schooled them in conjunction with a charter school for three years. They are now getting straight A's and performing exceptionally.
@gagamba9198
@gagamba9198 2 yıl önce
Aw'ight, I'll do so. You've earnt that Legend.
@howard6433
@howard6433 2 yıl önce
Beyond schools, textbooks, even teachers, the #1 factor in determining the success of a child in school (and in life) are his/her parents. Your kids are lucky to have you as a parent.
@IowaKim
@IowaKim 2 yıl önce
So good to hear! kudos.
@smellyarmpitts5274
@smellyarmpitts5274 10 aylar önce
Man Mr.Stossel your stuff is always top quality, straight to point, great journalism. I wish more journalist took a lesson from you sir! Love your stuff keep up the awesome work!
@carlahubbard7251
@carlahubbard7251 2 yıl önce
I grew up in south America and went to private school my whole life. We had waaaay! less resources that public schools here and we learned way more.
@hambone7181
@hambone7181 2 yıl önce
Yeah grammar's never been my strong point but if you're going to bash the US educational system you best be on point just saying
@Sycosoulreaver
@Sycosoulreaver 2 yıl önce
English is probably not their first language. Lots of PHD holders maintained bad grammar. I do agree grammar is important but apparently it is not a reflection of intelligence, Einstein was known to be a bad speller.
@elizrebezilmadommdo1662
@elizrebezilmadommdo1662 2 yıl önce
@@Sycosoulreaver It makes sense. I think he had dyslexia, no?
@jrow84
@jrow84 2 yıl önce
Don't forget that if a parent cares enough to send their child to a school that is hard to get into, that parent is more likely to be hands-on with their child's education. The parent's role in education is hugely overlooked in the US
@tomwessling7065
@tomwessling7065 2 yıl önce
Mostly yes, but sometimes no. We pulled our kids out of public schools and put them in private schools (we couldn't afford it - so we sacrificed a lot to do it). We saw many parents that put their kids in private schools because the parents were lazy and wanted the schools to raise their kids - so there was a mix between caring, involved parents and less caring, uninvolved parents. Just as many dysfunctional families too - even the rich have dysfunctional families.
@MP-ef9yo
@MP-ef9yo 2 yıl önce
@@tomwessling7065 If those "lazy" parents could afford to send their kids to private school, they could also afford nannies and tutors as well. Most parents at public and charter schools do not have that luxury
@cpu6850
@cpu6850 2 yıl önce
Thank you Stossel, some positivity in this world
@RodPruitt
@RodPruitt 6 aylar önce
I teach in public (government) school. We do a terrible job at educating kids. I wish I could say we do a good job, but I would never send my kids to public school in this country. It's sad. I think homeschooling is the only way to make sure your kids get a good education.
@guido9578
@guido9578 2 yıl önce
Great information. Politicians don’t want smart people because they’re not easy to indoctrinate
@user-mw7iw6bh5n
@user-mw7iw6bh5n 2 yıl önce
Hard*
@geomancer6894
@geomancer6894 2 yıl önce
Intellectual people are often easier to indoctrinate by appealing to their sense of superiority and interest in novel ideas. I'd say politicians rather not have people with a firm identity to be able to just lead them around, such as it is in America right now.
@bradhaines3142
@bradhaines3142 2 yıl önce
@@geomancer6894 not an actual intellectual person. you're more talking the 'educated' types. the distinction is the ability to think for themselves. 'educated' college kids are the best because they're so willing to take in whatever they're told, and think its right because of 'supporting evidence' but dont actually consider the validity. they'll take any lie as long as there's a research paper along side it
@geomancer6894
@geomancer6894 2 yıl önce
​@@bradhaines3142 You vastly underestimate the amount of people who appear to "think for themselves" but are driven by base contrarianism and wanting to feel part of a group. Just as liberals like to broadcast how tolerant they are, regardless of any consequences, so will your "free thinkers" get anxious being part of any kind of status quo and feel the need to broadcast their apparent dissatisfaction and openness to earn social praise.
@m.d.sharpe8892
@m.d.sharpe8892 2 yıl önce
I just really hope that these teachers are reminded on a daily basis that they are appreciated and essential
@johnb4183
@johnb4183 4 aylar önce
Absolutely !
@pwmike70
@pwmike70 2 yıl önce
I think charter success has a lot has to do with.... 1- parent involvement. 2- the kids wanting to go to school and wanting to learn. You can’t always teach that.
@EHou01
@EHou01 2 yıl önce
- and the ability to expel and remove students who do not "pull their weight". The reason Success has a 100% passing rate on the 4th grade NYS ELA exam is because all students who struggled were removed by 2nd and 3rd grade.
@thetaekwondoe3887
@thetaekwondoe3887 2 yıl önce
@@EHou01 Really? Once they win a spot they aren't guaranteed it through...whatever grade they go up to? Or is it they struggle because they don't care or the parents don't care, and they want to open the spot for someone who really wants it?
@jonc5152
@jonc5152 2 yıl önce
Yes... there is survivorship bias in this situation.... on the surface it _seems_ as if removal of bureaucracy and motivating teachers by having their jobs in jeopardy produces immaculate improvement in education outcomes... however, as survivorship bias implies, it's what you _don't_ see that makes the difference... that is - that kids who's parents _don't_ stand in line and enter school lotteries are the ones that don't end up in these schools... so their poor performance ends up only in the public school's results. Parental involvement is a HUGE part of successful kids... its cultural value within the family itself. These charter school teachers are teaching the cream of the crop.
@waywardspirit7898
@waywardspirit7898 2 yıl önce
3. No teachers union.
@paulrevere2379
@paulrevere2379 2 yıl önce
@@jonc5152 If it was all about the student/parent commitment, then all those who didn't win the lottery would be on par academic achievers with those who won the lottery slots. It's not just one key element. Such is my point. Likewise, a delinquent kid with a deadbeat parent isn't going to become an achiever even if given a shot at a charter school. An ambitious youngster without parental support might do well if given a shot, and that would be a very interesting thing to observe if possible. In most cases, the parents probably are the most important factor, but it's exceedingly rare for achievement to happen without some quality in the school (virtually non-existent in public schools with their political agendas). In much more rare cases however, the parent is the least important factor. In every success case, there is the essential need for a youngster to perform, which means to meet or exceed some significant level of expectation.
@equaltemp7075
@equaltemp7075 4 aylar önce
Keep the government out of education.
@andyp91
@andyp91 2 yıl önce
Dang I really had no clue what a Charter school represented. So much for the presumption that it was some kind of elitist institution. Stossel comes through yet again.
@rebekkad.2092
@rebekkad.2092 2 yıl önce
I taught 39 years - retired from public school and taught in a private school. Public school was a constant interruption with lead abatement education and smokey bear etc. I never felt I could get any teaching done. Then I went to private school and parents only wanted high grades for their children whether they earned them or not. They felt that paying tuition earned their children that right. Who in their right minds would want to teach? Fortunately, I'm done. There are some darn good teachers out there but if you sat down with them their list of frustrations would be a mile long.
@michaelbarron8495
@michaelbarron8495 2 yıl önce
"Embarassment keeps people in line, whether we want to admit it or not." If there's no shame, there can't be pride.
@beebee4334
@beebee4334 10 aylar önce
I love the discipline aspect of the school shown toward the end. Much needed! And even the kids know it 👏👏👏
@treasureplanet9082
@treasureplanet9082 2 yıl önce
My children were both reading whole books on their own a year before kindergarten. It wasn't work at all, it was fun!
@duckpwnd
@duckpwnd 2 yıl önce
I trust the parents to know what's best for their kids far more than some government or union bureaucrat.
@BetterEveryDayYouTube
@BetterEveryDayYouTube 10 aylar önce
They opened the first charter school in the town I used to live in just a few years ago. Within a year, the line to be admitted was unbelievably long. It's amazing how much better some children do with a different education.
@CaseyBurnsInvesting
@CaseyBurnsInvesting 2 yıl önce
Throwing money at the problem doesn’t work, school choice and competition does.
@mudbucket1650
@mudbucket1650 2 yıl önce
I spent 15 years in government, money was always the answer.
@TheCowboyCurtis
@TheCowboyCurtis 2 yıl önce
If I'm running a failing school and the government gives me more money to help, why would I ever start succeeding?
@dictatorenvy472
@dictatorenvy472 2 yıl önce
Crappy, selfish, constantly fighting parents also don't help.
@swampypolitics9574
@swampypolitics9574 2 yıl önce
@@dictatorenvy472 welcome to humanity and all its sins. Unfortunately that exists so it's something you have to work with
@aaa7189
@aaa7189 2 yıl önce
@@mudbucket1650 But its for the kids
@lindaalvarez2084
@lindaalvarez2084 2 yıl önce
Best exposure of the truth about our broken,waste of money schools,John,just excellent! Thank you so much!😇🙌🤲🙏💞💖👏👍🇺🇸🇺🇲🇺🇸
@steveandrews4822
@steveandrews4822 2 yıl önce
Thanks John !! Only Good news I have heard in 6 months !! It gives me Hope, That The USA is not gone, but recovering nicely !! God Bless those Teachers that put the future of our country above their own prosperity, Thank you Teachers !!
@paulreinicke6366
@paulreinicke6366 4 aylar önce
Seeing this video a year after it was posted and there are only 37k likes. We should have millions. Sad this is not making it to the top of everyone’s feed. Teachers unions keep kids from learning. Administration officials keep kids from learning. Only good, non union, teachers can help.
@solarstoned
@solarstoned 2 yıl önce
well done to all those great teachers and people who make this work. just goes to show how bad normal schools are compared to these
@seanpushor909
@seanpushor909 2 yıl önce
6th grade math class we had to watch Full Metal Jacket, in school. It took 3 days to watch and the “math” was that we had to count how many times they said the F word. Gotta love public school.
@joeyoboy1369
@joeyoboy1369 2 yıl önce
Great video. I have never understood why a college educated person needed a union. Being an engineer, I didn't. If I failed I got fired.
@jason200912
@jason200912 2 yıl önce
Minimal unions are helpful in making sure wages match inflation, have breaks, vacation and sick time. They are not helpful when they get so powerful that they kill competition amongst workers and incentivize everyone to do nothing for higher rewards. I do not think you should eliminate unions, until the beforementioned list is all adequately met, then the Union should exist only as a check and balance in case of a future violation where the workplace decides to violate those terms.
@joeyoboy1369
@joeyoboy1369 2 yıl önce
@@jason200912 I agree that unions have a place, but a college degreed person should be able to handle their job professionally and not require protection of a union.
@jason200912
@jason200912 2 yıl önce
@@joeyoboy1369 See john Stossel's video on the college degree and it's degraded value. They don't require the protection of a union, but inflation match per year is really the only thing a Union should be working towards. There is no advantages of fixed wages that do not adjust with the 2% inflation of the US Fed
@brisbanekilarny6212
@brisbanekilarny6212 2 yıl önce
Comparing charter schools with a public school is like apples and oranges.The students are from a group of children that want to be educated. The charter schools do not have to deal with trouble makers and students with disabilities. In some of my classes, my main goal was to keep kids from fighting and staying in their sets and not bothering other students.
@mmccrack3n
@mmccrack3n 2 yıl önce
Active listening skill development... absolutely brilliant.
@theyakamoz1
@theyakamoz1 11 aylar önce
I love how you ask them questions regardless of if you agree with the prompt you are asking or if you don’t agree. You are good at asking nonbiased questions to prove and find truth.
@wmrustycox
@wmrustycox Yıl önce
They "Indian School" highlighted in this story remind me of schools when I was young. I am so impressed these methods create real passion for learning in and pride of work in these kids !!!
@l.a.french3063
@l.a.french3063 6 aylar önce
These schools need to be the norm. Get rid of the unions.
@gasser5001
@gasser5001 2 yıl önce
Stossel, you’ve been killin it for as long as I can remember. Don’t stop… more people need to see what you show them. You’re amazing. A true national treasure.
@MrManfly
@MrManfly 2 yıl önce
Betcha they aren’t teaching critical race theory !! 👍🏻
@canucanoe2861
@canucanoe2861 2 yıl önce
@@newerafrican If capitalism worked for those who work hard, immigrant workers would all be millionaires. Get real.
@johnadams5678
@johnadams5678 2 yıl önce
The one thing missing from this article is the parents. The parents are committed and want their kids to have this educational opportunity. The parents have to sign off on some things that public schools cannot do. It has been proven that kids who have parents that value education do better in class.
@haydehabdolahian7691
@haydehabdolahian7691 2 yıl önce
You know we can’t fix stupid 😢my son was speaking fluent French ( he went to school in Paris for 4 years ) but the first year in America the teacher give him F because he corrected her accent 🤷🏼‍♀️he was failing on every thing and we were in the school every week , getting talk to about his wrong doing ! At 10 grade he changed to charter school and god it was like we had different son ! His teachers wouldn’t stop talking about how smart talented and helpful he is ! It was a god sent school , we as a parent are so grateful to them , to see our son the way we know he was 🤷🏼‍♀️
@hawaiiflowers7066
@hawaiiflowers7066 Yıl önce
Wow!!! What a great school with terrific teachers. Instead of raising advocates you’re raising the next generation to be proud of. Rewarding good behavior!!!
@maryzolner2570
@maryzolner2570 9 aylar önce
Rules , uniforms and parent support! A teachers dream....keep this going.
@JeffreyRandall
@JeffreyRandall 2 yıl önce
My wife has been a teacher for over 30 years. She could tell you some tales. Plus, she misses educating kids for more than just going to college. Public school is nothing more than a force all kids to go to college. All teachers I've talked to behind closed doors have said, "Not all kids should go to college." Yet they would be fired for saying that.
@rubenmejia942
@rubenmejia942 2 yıl önce
Seeing the kids that are really enthusiastic about school really warms my heart. Kids truly thrive when you set high expectations and hold them accountable. They feel loved when they are in an environment like that. Also, it really angers me that Teachers Unions and Liberal politicians do what they can to obstruct charter schools and school choice. They are the ones that are depriving our next generation.
@aaronc9728
@aaronc9728 2 yıl önce
Most people want to be held to higher standards and love the feeling of success. It is easy to give up and not succeed though when you have s-bags around you including crappy teachers.
@21area21
@21area21 2 yıl önce
@@googleisevil8958 Oh it's absolutely the case. It makes everything so bureaucratic and inefficient. And not getting rid of people that are underperforming is also a real killer.
@RAndrewNeal
@RAndrewNeal 2 yıl önce
The system is working as designed. Food for thought.
@langhamp8912
@langhamp8912 2 yıl önce
@@googleisevil8958 Do police unions share the same drawbacks as teacher unions?
@donsytsma5359
@donsytsma5359 2 yıl önce
Nice to see some small glimmers of hope in a nation gone mad!
@johnp139
@johnp139 2 yıl önce
If you haven’t adjusted for inflation, then school funding is actually HALF of what it was in 1970!!!
@phyllissinopoli2655
@phyllissinopoli2655 2 yıl önce
I give these schools so much credit. They're up against a lot of haters. Please don't change or give up.
@anthonyhenry9383
@anthonyhenry9383 2 yıl önce
That is Awesome to see these people learning not only reading comprehension mathematics and discipline and then to have the pride and self-confidence that comes with having those skills and qualities not to mention setting an example and a high standard. It should take schools like that and use them to build a model for how education and not leftist indoctrination
@MystiqWisdom
@MystiqWisdom 2 yıl önce
Gives me hope to see competent adults are still around.
@jbarton1541
@jbarton1541 2 yıl önce
This was a great and inspirational story, however, John showcased a GOOD Charter School. Not all Charter Schools look and succeed like the one featured. In fact, some are underperforming public schools in terms of test scores. Some, in poorly regulated states like Florida, spring up in new communities, register and accept fees for hundreds of children, then never open. Just watch out for scams... this is a FOR PROFIT BUSINESS.
@kevinquinn7645
@kevinquinn7645 2 yıl önce
Great to see so many parents who value their children's education.
@zatoichi3652
@zatoichi3652 2 yıl önce
This is what education should look like!
@Liberalcali
@Liberalcali 2 yıl önce
I can tell you as a behavior therapist that has to go inside the classroom the teachers in public schools don’t want you in there watching them
@johnmarshall4442
@johnmarshall4442 2 yıl önce
I can't believe it , out of everything I see and read about going on in the world and in America. Some good news , unbelievable ! Please let this go on !
@LisaGemini
@LisaGemini 2 yıl önce
Great story! Kids need encouragement and guidance. Parents should actually be doing it but many of them have abdicated that responsibility. My parents expected A's and B's. My great-grandmother always applauded my straight A's but didn't bribe me to get them. Tenure is BS. Incompetence should never be rewarded. Look at what's happening with the unions during the pandemic. Parents need choices. The kids deserve respect and expectations. Standards are necessary.
@HollyMoore-wo2mh
@HollyMoore-wo2mh 3 aylar önce
This makes me cry. THIS is the way schools should be run.
@justingolden21
@justingolden21 2 yıl önce
Love to see these kids valuing their education. Turns out less bureaucracy, more freedom for teachers, and the ability to fire an employee who isn't doing a good job makes for a better result? Who knew! Love the analogy about athletes, she's completely right.
@billwilson2160
@billwilson2160 2 yıl önce
And discipline
@JonHeckendorf
@JonHeckendorf 2 yıl önce
Justin, You're right. They knew many decades ago what works. Power, money are their goals. Not educating our children. Home schooling, charter schools are the savior of children's futures. The majority of kids will never have a chance to learn and grow intellectually in a public school. My kids, grand kids have the World by the tail to do whatever they desire because their parents knew the advantages of knowledge in spite of going to public schools.
@russdavis1960
@russdavis1960 2 yıl önce
@@azhardav ummm.... public education, in general, IS bad.... When you have teachers (protected by the union, with NO fear of being fired) lazily 'doing their job' while the students suffer. I went to public (government) school BUT, I was fortunate enough to attend a smaller school district AND in a time when teachers actually took pride in their work and were also concerned (for the most part) about the students. I have friends that work in 'union' factories, and from what I've been told over the years (decades), has NOT impressed me in the least when it comes to 'protection'.
@elizrebezilmadommdo1662
@elizrebezilmadommdo1662 2 yıl önce
@@billwilson2160 effective* discipline The problem isn't that we don't have enough punishments, it's that we need punishments that are effective. It's like with spanking. It's a punishment, but the question is, is it actually effective?
@joemachunda
@joemachunda 2 yıl önce
John should still be on tv. Teachers should be ashamed that we are so behind in math and language compared to the rest of the world.
@sandramccluskey8179
@sandramccluskey8179 2 yıl önce
So true! Same for Hawaii and teaching bilingual children with culture and respect!
@johnb4183
@johnb4183 4 aylar önce
Charter schools , WOW ! Excellent work !
@henrysniper8481
@henrysniper8481 2 yıl önce
When I was a kid I loved being given push-ups as my punishment. I thought how ironic I'm being given something good for me for not doing the right thing or being bad.
@dennmillsch
@dennmillsch 7 aylar önce
We need to break the stranglehold of teacher's unions and the near monopoly of govt schools. Go charters!!!
@scottv8410
@scottv8410 2 yıl önce
Students are much more likely to fail when parents believe that their child's education is primarily the school's responsibility and not theirs.
@PFLEONARDI0906
@PFLEONARDI0906 2 yıl önce
DING DING DING A WINNER!
@jgdooley2003
@jgdooley2003 2 yıl önce
All most parents can do is oversee the performance of their childrens teachers and get help for subpar performance in time to get answers for an individual childs difficulties in the education system. Not all parents have a 3rd level education good enough to teach their kids into late secondary school although some have attained that level of education, keeping barely one lesson ahead of their children, this dedication is rare. Teachers being fired for underperformance is so rare in Ireland that it makes national news. This is a huge problem in education, a lack of accountability and quality control so that some pupils and schools perform better than others leading to increasing levels of inequality in later life.
@scottv8410
@scottv8410 2 yıl önce
@@jgdooley2003 it would be great if more parents took responsibility as you are describing. That's exactly what i think is missing that contributes to the difficulties that many students have.
@davidtherwhanger6795
@davidtherwhanger6795 2 yıl önce
We often hear from teachers unions and the government that parents just don't care. Yet we see parents lined up around the block to try and get their child a better education than the teachers unions or the government want to provide.
@scottv8410
@scottv8410 2 yıl önce
@@davidtherwhanger6795 there are certainly many parents that take responsibility. I do think that the unions and the government are concerned about many things other than the children. I know many teachers personally and while I only know a small percentage of the total I have never met a teacher that doesn't do everything in their power to help the children, often in spite of the detrimental interference from the system that they belong to. In the place where I live some parents have lobbied for things like a no homework policy. Some bring frivolous lawsuits that waste time and money. It is much easier to teach the children of caring and involved parents but they are not all like that. When parents see the education of their children more as a partnership with the teacher it is much more successful. When they see it as an adversarial relationship it is destructive for everyone. When the parents of children that need as much help as possible refuse to take any responsibility for their child's education it hurts their children and also the others in their class. Not every parent can teach their child in every subject but they need to help them in any way that they can rather than turning away. The parents that you describe are not part of the problem. They are the ones that should serve as an example to some of the others. The school has a child for a relatively small part of their week and without having parental support for the rest of the time many children won't have much of a chance.
@generay6807
@generay6807 2 yıl önce
Our schools are always holding our children’s education hostage. Sooo many days off for “Teacher enrichment”, early outs etc. and our teachers keep chanting that they want more and more money. My 7th grader complains about her bad teachers who aren’t there to teach but to just get a paycheck.
@maria.whiddon
@maria.whiddon 10 aylar önce
Thats amazing. Love how they run things for students and staff.
@dorianmorris4690
@dorianmorris4690 5 aylar önce
Most of the kids in this video on charter schools were black. This should lead the Black community to realize these are the leaders of the future for their community and for America. Get all the Black community to fight for better education and get rid of the race baiters who have given them nothing OVER THE YEARS. All we got over years is more government funding which went to teacher and their unions then to the politicians. -- d
@eyesopened1874
@eyesopened1874 7 aylar önce
“Embarrassment keeps people in line, whether we want to admit it or not.” I know of a state where teachers can be investigated for embarrassing students. It is funded by increased teacher licensing fees!
@davidchavez4464
@davidchavez4464 2 yıl önce
This is basically a shining example of how tough love helps
@saddletramp5000
@saddletramp5000 2 yıl önce
My daughter went to public school. There weren't as many charters a decade ago. And most of her teachers leaned left. Thankfully, she wasn't swayed by her ultra liberal teachers. It wasn't very political at home when she was in grade school but her favorite teachers were the most conservative. Seeing footage of how teachers behave in the classroom, I can see why.
@brillopad1392
@brillopad1392 2 yıl önce
Absolutely the worst thing that ever happened to education is the Teacher's Union. Promoting it should almost be a criminal offense.
@danceswithcritters
@danceswithcritters 2 yıl önce
Your ignorant comments should be a criminal offense .
@monkeymankyle
@monkeymankyle 2 yıl önce
This is how the public school should be but they have the union and indoctrination protect them. Go CHARTERS!!!! we need more of them
@petehoward8494
@petehoward8494 Yıl önce
These charter schools and teachers have it right. Focus on making learning interesting and fun. That is what matters.
@candacecraddock1592
@candacecraddock1592 2 yıl önce
My son went to charter school and it was awesome! Just goes to show that time and real social interactions cause more success than money!
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